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This was recently posted Brooklynian.com:

Is it me, or is the drug dealing on St. John’s and Franklin out of hand? Perhaps it is me, because I am around during the day and I see it. But as clear as day I see hand offs, and guys going to their stash in nearby garbages. I guess I am just surprised by how obvious it all is. Are the cops on the take or just don’t care?

A number of follow-up comments suggest this is indeed a hot-spot. Anyone have anything to add about the history and current status of this location? This is the 77th Precinct’s turf: What have people’s experiences been with them? Maybe these new streetlights will ameliorate the problem.


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  1. As is often the case, I agree with 11217. The prices people want for properties in what are absolutely fringe areas of the city are astounding. “Live next to a crack corner! Only $650k for a 2 BR condo!”

    No one who makes that kind of money wants to live in a place with no restaurants, shops, etc … let alone a place where violent crime and drugs are commonplace. Neighborhoods can and do gentrify (and contrary to What’s belief, they don’t all return to “the ghetto” as soon as there’s an economic downturn), but the work isn’t done by the wealthy. It’s done by people who are willing to put up with the annoyances and outright dangers of a down neighborhood in order to keep their costs low, as they work to improve their surroundings.

    I agree that the government-driven “war on drugs” hasn’t worked worth a damn when it comes to cleaning up the streets or reducing drug addiction. What DOES work, at least in terms of improving neighborhoods, is a concerted effort by the people who live there to make this type of trade unwelcome.

  2. Nope, I don’t think 3 million is reasonable.

    I’d say 1.5 million seems about right. Maybe 2.

    There is a lot more to Park Slope than bars and restaurants. The amount of work done by the longtime residents on crime, schools, cleaning up Prospect Park and a transformed 5th Avenue (among other things!) have been HUGE challenges that people before me have worked on for 30 plus years.

    This can be said for many of the nicer brownstone neighborhoods. It just hasn’t happened to the extent that it needs to in Crown Heights yet. Partially due to the inflated housing prices, in my opinion.

  3. house prices in park slope were well over 200-300k 10-15 years ago. I know someone who bought a house on 13th street and 6th ave for 500k in ’98. Saying they should be 300k in crown heights because of drug dealing is kind of stupid.

  4. So houses in Crown Heights are grossly overpriced and worth 200-300K? Do you think 3 million is reasonable for a brownstone in Park Slope just because it has some bars and restaurants?

  5. I’ve said it before and I know the Crown Heights dwellers and lovers hate me for it, but it’s articles like these that makes 1 million dollar homes (or even half million) in Crown Heights seem absurd to some of us.

    It’s not about hating the neighborhood (I wish it well, just like every other neighborhood) but the neighborhood’s home values have increased FAR beyond the actual improvements in quality of life, it would seem.

    I know that Crown Heights has it’s good areas and bad, but when the newer residents are paying so much to live in these areas (unlike the peanuts the first to gentrify areas of Boreum Hill, Park Slope etc) they want things cleaned up now, or they become disenfranchised and leave.

    If home prices were where they should be (200-300K) those people with moderate incomes who normally do the gentrification would see those deals, move in and try to improve the neighborhood.

    I don’t think people spending 750K-1 million are the gentrifying type, by and large. I think they are the ones who want to enjoy the fruits of said gentrification.

  6. Putnamdenizen I was not threatening anyone! You work in the Brooklyn District Attorney Office (I think you are a ADA) you know what happen when the “Snitch” thing is factored in. Young men do not have rational thought processes, they think in the moment, what ever that is. If the retards continue with this type of behavior they something real bad could happen. Putting false and misleading information on a blog and naming name is bad business. You are that naive Putnamdenizen!

    As someone who grew up in the 80’s I agree with your assessment on the War on Drugs!

    “indeed, the ghetto is not what i wanted, but we were hoping to make the best of it. we made friends with a lot of the local business owners (RIP Saje cafe). unfortunately the what is probably right on this one. with the economy in the tank and so many foreclosures in the area, crown heights will probably remain crackhead territory for a while longer. which is a shame for the kids and families in the area.”

    The retards better read this statement over and over again! This is from a former Retard that learned the hard way. ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!

    The What (I’m a dollar short)

    Someday this war is gonna end…

  7. indeed, the ghetto is not what i wanted, but we were hoping to make the best of it. we made friends with a lot of the local business owners (RIP Saje cafe). unfortunately the what is probably right on this one. with the economy in the tank and so many foreclosures in the area, crown heights will probably remain crackhead territory for a while longer. which is a shame for the kids and families in the area.

  8. “hmm i don’t know why you feel the need to be such a dick about my own personal experience with the neighborhood, but if it makes you feel any better, i ended up moving to carroll gardens, and i do like it better.”

    Hey Dumbass see what happen when you live in a great neighborhood you can afford? I’m so sorry the Ghetto was not what you wanted, thanks for playing. Next contestant!!!

    I want to show the Retards what in your future. The Ghetto Hi-Jack Asshat Team are losing momentum and I hope you didnot buy in a “Up and coming area” because you’re toast!

    “i didn’t really have any say in the crown heights apartment since my bf lived there before we decided to cohabit besides my advice to not believe the landlord’s claim that it was in “prospect heights.””

    ROTFLMMFAO!!!! See the pixie dust is wearing off…

    The What (Let me get 4)

    Someday this war is gonna end…

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