Closing Bell: Clinton Hill Crime Press Conference & Rally
In the wake of last week’s shooting at the corner of Putnam and Grand Avenues, Councilmember Tish James is holding a press conference to raise awareness and, hopefully, call for more attention and crime-fighting resources for this corner of Clinton Hill. Despite decades of blatant drug dealing and violence on this corner, the 88th Precinct…
In the wake of last week’s shooting at the corner of Putnam and Grand Avenues, Councilmember Tish James is holding a press conference to raise awareness and, hopefully, call for more attention and crime-fighting resources for this corner of Clinton Hill. Despite decades of blatant drug dealing and violence on this corner, the 88th Precinct has either been unwilling or unable to clean it up for good. The event will be held in the triangular island formed by Grand, Putnam and Fulton at 4 p.m. on Wednesday. Rain location: The Senior Citizen Center across the street at 966 Fulton Street.
Meanwhile across town, Councilmember Bill de Blasio and Assemblyman Jim Brennan host a forum at P.S. 154 tomorrow night from 5 to 7 p.m. about the recent robberies and murder in Windsor Terrace. The event takes place at PS 154, 1625 11th Avenue.
7:21 do you know what commiserate or credit means? You commiserate with someone who has had a hard time or experienced something bad – that would not include “not being arrested.” I think you mean attribute rather than credit “most of the protest to come from NIMBY newcomers.”
While as a public defender I too agree that the war on drugs is misguided and obviously futile, to equate discomfort with drug dealing with the normal targets of nimbyism (drug rehabs, group homes, sewage plants) is rather laughable. And I am sorry, after living in Clinton Hill for ten years, and near Grand and Putnam for 6, yes, I do associate drug dealing with violence, prostitution and petty crime. Just as it was associated with it on 15th Street and 8th Avenue in Chelsea when I lived there in the 80s and 90s. I mean how many bodies need to be piled up before we say enough is enough? And no, given the killings around here in the last few years (Putnam and Grand, Downing and Gates, Lefferts and Classon), that is not hyperbole!
7:24 Well said.
But that corner is a problem and I support any actions or efforts to clean it up.
“Clinton Hill’s always been pretty shaky. Of course, 5 years ago all you people were still in Wisconsin or Manhattan so I guess this stuff is shocking to you.”
I’ve been in Brooklyn my whole life (45 years) and the ENTIRE borough (and the whole city for that matter) is FAR less shaky than it’s ever been. All of this fraidy cat fear of crime is a big joke as far as I’m concerned. This is not perfect by any means, but it’s nothing compared with the 1970s or even the 1980s.
Downingbylaw – huh?
Guest 6:46 – wrong.
4:52, 4:57: quoting a troll from a previous thread = re-trolling.
Another interesting post might be the many, many listings in the immediate area. Should be intriguing to see what the area looks like in five years.
Also why is this Leticia James’ press conference only? Albert Vann is actually the councilmember for much of the area, and I have never heard a peep out of him.
7:08 I hear you. Nobody on this thread is going to appreciate your skill at not getting arrested, but I commiserate. As a former dealer, I give myself credit where credit’s due. Cleaning up this corner is not something that can be easily accomplished. Besides, I credit most of protest to come from NIMBY newcomers, not those who have lived the hood the way we have. Let’s recognize that dealing is not the attrocity that people on this board often make it out to be, nor is it always associated with violence.
7:08 I am glad for you but your perspective is irrelevant, narrow and seemingly self absorbed. i hold the immediate communities ambivalence as the major culprit and your wonderful insight gives me that ability.
“unwilling?” “tomfoolery?” i dealt drugs for years. in fact, when i flunked out of college, i used to tell people that i got my equivalency degree in entrepeneurial management. so, now i’ve cleaned up my act and even have professional dealings with “five-oh.” let me clue you in on something: i took steps to not get arrested. i don’t get the veiled accusations that the precinct doesn’t care or is corrupt. some of you make cleaning up this situation sound easy; it ain’t. in this compstat-quantified world, there is nothing that a commanding officer and everyone under him/her wants to do more than rack up good arrests. career advancement is on the line here. just thought i’d share a different perspective.
This is great! Maybe this exposure will make those who turn a blind eye realize that some of us may be finally fed up and are looking for a solution.
But I echo the 4pm as inconvenient sentiment.
Clinton Hill’s always been pretty shaky. Of course, 5 years ago all you people were still in Wisconsin or Manhattan so I guess this stuff is shocking to you.