Residents Want "21st Century Solution" for BQE
Last night’s meeting of the BQE shareholders was the followup to the previous scare that the reconstruction of the triple-cantilever portion of the BQE could take some historic Brooklyn Heights homes with it. That threat wasn’t on the table last night, but there were serious concerns about how the project, not slated to begin until…

Last night’s meeting of the BQE shareholders was the followup to the previous scare that the reconstruction of the triple-cantilever portion of the BQE could take some historic Brooklyn Heights homes with it. That threat wasn’t on the table last night, but there were serious concerns about how the project, not slated to begin until around 2018, would evolve. There are currently nine proposals for reconstruction, with the cost ranging from $200 million to $20.7 billion. The cheapest plan, which was criticized as a “paint job,” would be a rehabilitation of the current alignment of the BQE. The most expensive plan involves an “outboard tunnel connecting Greenpoint (BQE exit 33) to the north and Sunset Park to the south (65th Street).” All the options are drawn out in the map above, and you can click through to read all of the proposals. The biggest concern in the audience was the actual budget of the plan, which has not yet been determined. The next meeting should happen in about one month and reveal more as to plausible options based on funding. Meanwhile, one member of the audience urged the reps from the State DOT to “stop acting like a 3rd world country” (concerning the simplest of rehabilitation plans) while another said “Rebuilding the 1920s design is absolutely stupid.” Instead the crowd asked for a “21st century solution,” with an audience member saying, “We need to bring Brooklyn to the 21st and 22nd century.”
Heights Homes Could Be Taken in BQE Fix [Brownstoner]
R-1: Rehab with current alignment. Cost: $200-280M
CS-1: Would closely follow the existing alignment to avoid built structures. Cost: $788-988M
T-1: Tunnel with horizontal alignment following Hicks/Henry St. to Tillary. The existing BQE infrastructure would be maintained as a collector-distributor roadway. Cost: $2.28B-2.95B
T-2: Tunnel with horizontal alignment similar to the existing alignment. Cost: $3,61B-4.73B
T-3: Tunnel alignment approximately north of the existing alignment with a subaqueous segment between Atlantic Avenue and Doughty Street. Cost: $4.46B-5.87B
W-1: Tunnel with horizontal alignment approximately following Willow Street to Tillary Street. Cost: $4.45B – 5.79B
W-2: Horizontal alignment would run approximately in a straight line tunnel between BQE exits 24 and 30 – avoiding neighborhoods approximately west of 4th-Lafayette-Washington Avenues. Cost: $4.89B-$6.38B
W-3: Outboard tunnel connecting Greenpoint (BQE exit 33) to the north and Sunset Park to the south (65th Street) Cost: 15.03B-20.7B
W-4: Tunnel with horizontal alignment following 4th Ave, and curve east north of Flatbush Ave to meet the BQE at Exit 30 (Park Ave.) Cost: $6.68B-8.77B
The battle over the BQE rehab will be a parochial one for sure, and will provide plenty of grist to chew on at Brownstoner, for the next decade or so, that’s for sure. But sometimes, I’d rather be dreaming of a paradigm shift in the way people live and move than the reptilian advance of the current technology and modality.
in the 1980’s a rebuild of the FDR under Carl Schurz Park was proposed, also has a promenade …. State DOT proposed multiple ideas, as they are REQUIRED to do, including running traffic on promenade….. they do this to put fear of god in everyone, to show worse case, and to context real solution politics of road repair tunnel option is best, but extraordinarily expensive
Yup. You’re right DIBS. And as I look at the way your party is currently manhandling state budgets and the life’s blood of working middle and lower class families across the nation (especially in Wisconsin, Michigan and Florida) and as I ponder the state of our bridges, our infrastructure etc., I wondered, “huh. Why IS it that Japan is likely to rebuild before we can say ‘boo’?” Is it, perchance, because they have a tax structure and an economy that actually works? That they have a political system not bought and paid for by corporate interests? That they have a cultural sense of responsibility to the whole? To one another and not just their individual pocketbooks?
This from the International News on Taxation: In an effort to shore funds for the reconstruction of the disaster struck Japan, the government is considering canceling the planned cuts to the national corporate tax rates.
Read more: http://www.taxationinfonews.com/2011/03/japan-sees-radical-turnaround-in-tax-plans/#ixzz1IBcloiRk
That could NEVER happen here.
There’s no such thing as status quo when it comes to transportation technology. Its been in flux ever since steam engines were invented. But at the same time, lets be realistic. The personal-trasnportation devices might be hovering a foot above the ground and non-polluting but we’re still going to need routes unless Star Trek transporters are available. And do you think its suddenly going to get easier to create a new route wherever you want (be it underground, surface or a flight path) or re-purpose those existing? As for the “age” of the technology, the 1800’s technology of bike-riding seems to be doing pretty well right now, I don’t see anyone throwing up their hands at the technological-backwardness of bike lanes.
They’re more concerned with the color and the car parking lost.
No snark or disrespect intended but Japan will be fully rebuilt from the earthquake & tsunami before the shovels hit the ground on this.
and why do I really believe this???
because it is most probably 100 percent true……………….
we are so backward here, it is a shame.
are you saying I’m dreamin’ ditto? And wasn’t that the 1957 Boys Annual of the Future? Or do you just think that we’re doomed to the status quo forever?
I’d be happy with a personal jet pack like they had on “Lost in Space”.
Sadly, I tend to agree with DIBS at 9:08.
I would love to see the BQE trench in the middle of Hicks Street covered over by any rebuilding project.
architect66, as authoritatively predicted in my 1977 Boys Annual of the Future, by the year 2000 we will have personal jet-hover cars, so we just need flight routes not asphalt.
While not optimal, the current situation seems to work.
I think there are much better projects to spend $2 billion to $20 billion on.