Open House Picks
Prospect Heights 368 Park Place Corcoran Sunday 12-2 $1,700,000 GMAP P*Shark Windsor Terrace 1670 10th Avenue Warren Lewis Sunday 12-2 $1,425,000 GMAP P*Shark Ditmas Park 493 Stratford Road FSBO Sat 10-4, Sun 10-4 $1,050,000 GMAP P*Shark Prospect Lefferts Gardens 150 Winthrop Street Fillmore Sunday 1-3 $799,000 GMAP P*Shark
Prospect Heights
368 Park Place
Corcoran
Sunday 12-2
$1,700,000
GMAP P*Shark
Windsor Terrace
1670 10th Avenue
Warren Lewis
Sunday 12-2
$1,425,000
GMAP P*Shark
Ditmas Park
493 Stratford Road
FSBO
Sat 10-4, Sun 10-4
$1,050,000
GMAP P*Shark
Prospect Lefferts Gardens
150 Winthrop Street
Fillmore
Sunday 1-3
$799,000
GMAP P*Shark
It appears that the price on the WT house on 10th Ave has been lowered to $1.39M. The Warren Lewis website lists the house at $1.39M in the open house section, but still says $1.425M in the details section.
Not sure if the price drop is related to the recent bad press about the murder, or just general lack of interest.
Think WT house is overpriced, but just to set record straight–WT is an extraordinarily safe neighborhood and the murder of our dry cleaner was a shocking aberration–the cohesiveness of neighborhood is illustrated by fact that neighbors found her body and helped catch criminal in a little over 48 hours. It is not PS, for better or for worse, but it is safe. If 10th Avenue looked dead to you, remember–Memorial Day weekend. Also–PS 107 an excellent school, but PS 10 is not better than 154.
10:59, either you missed my point, or I’m missing yours. Two neighborhoods (neither of which I live in) were being compared using crime statistics. I felt (and continue to feel) that this is foolish. They are both relatively great neighborhoods, as are many other neighborhoods in New York. Those neighborhoods weren’t being discussed, so I didn’t feel the need to defend them or list them.
We went today to both WT and Park Place house. WT was cute, but as 10:59 notes, very common and that area of WT felt a bit desolate. It’s right next to Prospect Avenue (and a bar) which in mind makes it not such a great location. In this city, even moving 1-2 blocks makes a big difference, and I did not find this spot very appealing. If the spot was better, I’d be more interested in the house.
Park Place, meanwhile, seems like a nightmare. They were only showing garden and half of parlor floor, but you could see already that it is in bad shape, and as someone pointed out, the owner of both this house and the one next door just died so it’s an estate sale. Corcoran just lowered the price by 100K but I’m sure they’ll need to keep chopping, It’s a *HUGE* project for whoever takes it on, a minimum of 600K is my guess, and could be well over, plus all the huge headaches. The block is pretty but not terribly convenient to subway, amenities, etc.
Bond at 8:08, you lost my sympathy about WT getting unfair snide comments lately about safety, because in the same breath you suggest everyplace in Brooklyn other than PS or WT is some cesspool of crime. Thus yourself happily bashing other neighborhoods. My question – have you even BEEN to other cities in this country?
L.A. in particular has tons of break-ins and robberies even in the very best neighborhoods. I know of two different women through acquaintenances who were victims of assault in home invasion robberies there, both in *good* neighborhoods in houses priced over a million. If that happened in Brooklyn, people would freak. But it happens all the time in L.A. Also the gang warfare is getting bad again in L.A. after it improved in the last several years for a while. You know where there is a tangle of territorial lines drawn for some of the biggest gangs? Right in Venice and the Westside. Home of multi-million dollar homes and hipster restaurants. Chicago is also worse than here, Atlanta is worse, Miami is worse.
Any neighborhood in Brooklyn is better than those other cities for crime, even the current whipping boy, Clinton Hill. Most New Yorkers know this. Fear Mongering isn’t going to work on certain buyers. Some just aren’t going to choose a cute but common and overpriced house in WT on a bad subway line with few amenities or potential for amenities to ever arrive (mostly residential with very little commercial space) no matter what people try to get them terrified about.
2:19, You’re right, that does sound what I was saying. I was only trying to make a point of why a neighborhood might be relatively safe in some ways, yet still have things like murders taking place. I guess ultimately what I wanted to say is that in my opinion, crime really is a non-factor for anyone who is thinking of buying in either Park Slope or Windsor Terrace. They are both incredibly safe when you think of the number of people living in both compared to the actual number of violent crimes, but I could skew individual cases, or statistics to indicate otherwise.
Its a silly argument to compare South Slope with WT. Its a totally different feel and each can make the ideal neighborhood for a different people. I happen to prefer WT greatly and so I chose to live there. I find the amenities here very convienent for MY life. But its definitely not a hipster area so for people who are looking for the amenities that come with that kind of community, South Slope is a more ideal locale. I never understood why this boards neighborhood wars get so heated – if someone doesn’t like my neighborhood, its not a personal insult.
wt reminds me of some of the neighborhoods in chicago.
nice, but very modest.
The WT sale on 11th Ave (from the NYT real estate section) had been on the market over a year. I saw it last spring. It was a complete mess. Needed a gut renovation down to the plumbing and floors I believe. No yard. Two car garage in an area with abundant parking (that always seemed like a terrible trade off to me). Not really a comp to this current open house (which I’ve not seen).
I live in WT and I like it. We feel like the value is much better than South Slope. Amenities? Somewhat lacking, but the proximity to the park more than makes up for it for us and our 2 year old. And I can easily walk to 7th Ave or 5th Ave shops and restaurants.
I have to disagree with those calling WT ugly. It is a varied area and I agree that some of it is not great and some is downright awful. But the section around the 10th Ave house is very nice. The surrounding blocks of 16th, Windsor, Sherman, Howard, Fuller etc are very cute.
Based on what I’ve seen sell nearby–recent sales on Windsor btw 9th & 10th; Windsor btw 10th & 11th; Fuller St–I think this may not be a huge stretch. Someone will talk them down 5% and buy this. On the other hand the house on Windsor btw 11th and PPSW (#72?) is still on the market for a similar price.