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Morning, DIBS. How was your weekend?
it’s sleeping with the enemy time for my Mets – ie trading time
Weekend was good. Nothing exciting. Yours, wendy?
I was out of town at a bed and breakfast for a meeting. It was nice and very productive.
strange – that doesn’t sound like what Scott was telling us was his weekend plans.
I did not go with Wendy to her meeting.
I was very lazy Saturday – just stayed home and watched TV with my son all day.
Yesterday evening we had our annual building BBQ.
One guy asked me if I was BoerumHillScott. Apparently he lurks here.
I wonder how many other people read but never/rarely post.
did you deny it? hit them with “what y’all talking about”?
I admitted my identity.
you would not have been as a “playa” back then. denying with a straight face is the 2nd mandatory skill – after great time mgtmt
He wasn’t with me. He and John had a boys’ weekend.
Was in Bucks County, peach season…they were incredible. Also, my local farm, Maximucks, has their first corn…very sweet, very delicious.
I had one tomato from my garden.
I just bought two peaches from the Veg. Market. I don’t have high hopes for them, but I thought I would try them.
I still have some that I brought up with me, Cobble. They are “eat over the sink” peaches if you know what I mean.
Oh man, I do, those sound really good!
didn’t think you’re the type that would let any yummy juicy drop from your mouth onto the floor – ie thought you would suck up every drop
ALREADY GETTING THE G-DAMN LOGIN MESSSAGE
Good morning from an island in Maine.
blayze with you?
Good morning, jester
Chicago got 7″ in two hours!!!!
Ah, it’s our new head-WASP. (Having unceremoniously dethroned moi on Friday.)
Cobble, that wasn’t even close – ie can’t call that landslide whooping a contest
As I told Slopey the other day, don’t count me out, I still have some very high scoring WASP cards in my hand!
Just think of all of the fun we shall have. Do you play bridge?
No, I don’t, BH tried to teach me two-handed Bridge once, but my grandfather was a tournament player and my parents played.
Oh, well. I have been trying to find a bridge partner closer to my age…at least with 4 decades or so.
BH will play with you, if you can find two more.
And he’s only two decades older than you.
better whip them out now girl. he about to bust out the paddles on you for the continued whooping
We’ll see, M4L, I like to play my cards close to the vest. They’re real whoppers! : P
Hah…Well, you can be the Queen of the WASPs and I will be the, well…nevermind…
Any Asians or Latinos up there, BHI?????
In Dark Harbor? Ironically, no…
dibs – Where’d you see Jester?
The IRS in conjunction with Dodd Frank is essentially shutting down the US off-shore hedge fund business.
Many, many, many jobs will be lost.
Way to go fellas
I D T S
we’ll see, arkady
I got my new “free” bike assembled. This is the one I got with redeemed American Express points. Assembly, a goofy helmet, a lock, and a reflector light cost a mere 200 bucks. So much for a free bike. I rode a little, trying it out. It’s nice.
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I cannot believe that a less flattering photo of the Norway terrorist hasn’t been released. Maybe it is a Scandinavian thing, but in this country they would have released a photo that made him look as ugly and disheveled as possible.
On Saturday, in the blazing heat, I rode my bike down to Coney Island, spent a couple of hours on the beach, and then cycled back to my house. I was exhausted, but somewhat proud that I could still do it.
I was surprised to find that the water was still somewhat cold (though it was appreciated on Saturday)
A couple of horus? You were hanging out at Coney Island with Egyptian gods? [OK, make a fool out of me if the edit function works.] Meanwhile you will appreaciate that we drove out to Robert Moses State Park. Great beach, water was perfect. And, of course, we took the parkways that Moses designed. Actually, I love how RM watched the movement of sand and decided to purchase a tiny spit of land, then waited for the currents to drag enough sand onto his parcel to make Jones Beach.
Last week I went to the local bike store near me (the one that just opened on 5thAve near 12th Street) hoping to buy a bike bag. I couldn’t believe that they wanted ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY DOLLARS for a bike bag. The hell with that. I just used a tote bag this weekend when I went to the beach with my bike.
$4 muffins. $5 coffee. $2M homes. 130 bike bag looks to be “in-line”
Surprised you didn’t go more old school Brooklyn with your choice of bike shop. Dixon’s? On the Move? The place on Coney Island Ave near Church?
I ran out to do some stuff and didn’t see your earlier post about the bike bag. This was the breakdown on the costs: 75 dollars for bike assembly, 65 dollars for helmet, 45 dollars for hard metal kryptonite lock plus cable lock as a set, 15 dollars for a reflector light.
My God, I don’t know how you could have ridden to Coney Island on Saturday. It was 100 degrees. I went to Coney Island last night. It was lovely. I am liking the changes there. It still has the flavor of Coney Island, but the rides are nice and the boardwalk is improved over the old warped boards and protruding nails. It’s still got its funky feel. They got rid of shoot the freak, which made me happy too.
Another VERY BAD day in the market
BHI, You’re not denying that you’re infinite?
Dave: I was expecting worse, actually, but we have a long day ahead. The gold bubble continues to grow.
Oh, why am I a jester?
If the school blazer fits…
Speculation that you are jester’s sockpuppet…many coincidences
Who is Jester?
You seem to know who the rest of us are, why not infinite/jester?
OK, bit of a red flag there for me. Cobble and dibs will correct me if I’m wrong but I think you showed enough pre-posting OT knowledge on Friday to know who jester is.
The Voice of Reason (and reigning GOTD champion) has spoken.
He’s another poster. he’s also in Maine right now.
His pretending not to know who IJ is when he knows so much
else from supposed lurking is a bit suspicious.
I go to the part of Coney Island beach that is away from the amusement park, adjacent to SeaGate. It is always quiet there.
I’ll have a Robert Moses comment later, as I saw something in the paper this morning that blew me away.
I’ve never been down that far, but I’ve heard the same, that it is quiet. I’ll look forward to your RM comment. Does it have to do with Orchard Beach? We’ve made a few trips to Brighton Beach — late afternoon/early evening. Not too bad, either.
I am not an operative for another poster, sorry. Life is too short for conspiracy theories.
Ok, we’ll take you at your word, for the moment.
I took this picture of a travel poster on the train ride home Friday.
I thought I would check it out since it was convenient. Have you been in there yet? That bike store is like hipster central.
After going in there, I think *Rob* is onto something with his ____face-economics.
I go by it every day but I’ve never been in. We’re kind of loyal to On the Move, which opened back when we lived around the corner from it on 12th. We go there for tune-ups, accessories — it is an overcrownded, noisy hole in the wall of a bike shop but we like them. Although when we need a real selection to buy a new bike, we buy in PA when we visit Mrs. Slopey’s family there.
So, jester, BHI and Pete are all in Maine now. It’s like Stephen King meets Deliverance.
If conspiracies amuse one, one is easily amused.
Now if you will excuse me, I have to go and mix drinks for my Bilderberg cronies and manipulate oil futures.
Now, now, don’t be offended, we’re a suspicious group, but we’re enjoying your company.
At least we’re suspicious until we meet someone in person.
Though I tend to be more suspicious when someone doesn’t email me about gatherings – even 11217 used to email me.
Yes, true. Once we meet an asshat, we’re ever so much more comfy. : )
“Once we meet an asshat, we’re ever so much more comfy.”
Re-write: Once we meet an asshat, we’re ever so much more frightened.
Good to see you back, *Rob*
so i wonder who is gonna report me next. hopefully my new screenname doesnt offend the delicasies of some random nobodies
Just FYI, I didn’t report you. But I should have.
Yes, I hear Mr. B is being inundated with complaints by imaginary small blue people as we speak.
i also wanna know exactly what i said that was sooooo offensive. cuz ive seen a lot worse written here than anything ive ever said! also, id appreciate if cobble, bxgirl, and MM, never acknowledge me. thanks!
*rob*, please play nice and try not to get banned again.
Email Mr. B and ask him. Obviously you don’t want to make the same mistake. But also, just stop and think for a moment before posting whatever you type.
Says the guy who posted about imagining jackal naked.
[DUCKS FOR COVER]
But also, just stop and think for a moment before posting whatever you type.
that’s not something im capable of.
So we’ll just start the clock now and see how long it takes you to get banned again. I’ll mark today in my iCal.
Your seriously offensive jizz comment aimed at me was removed. I checked. But there were others, or so I heard.
You know, Rob, I try to give you the benefit of the doubt, and even be nice to you at times. But you really went off the deep end that day. Take Slopey’s advice and THINK before you post. Jackass.
Rob, (ignoring totally your request to not be addressed by me), for what it’s worth, I didn’t ask to have you banned either, in spite of the garbage you were spewing before you were banned. I don’t think Bxgrl did either. We’ve got more important things to do with our time.
I suggest if you want to stick around to amuse your fan base, you take Slopey’s suggestion and think about what you post before you post it. You many not find your little bon mots offensive, but obviously a lot of other people did, and they complained. As you’ve been told numerous times, just because a thought pops into your head, doesn’t mean you need to share it.
charlie browns teacher
so i was gonna go to the red hook pool this weekend. omfg. why are there so many ridiculous rules!?!?!? i looked that place up on the internet and it’s like some kind of military camp with all those rules, id be violating like half the rules just by showing up. annoying. are there any public pools in brooklyn that are fun and dont have crazy rules? i was thinking about the douglas degraw pool but reviews of it on the intenret say it’s diaper central.
How did you get unbanned or are you posting from another address???
Slopey, I promise, I’m done now. :-0
Chavez is apparently free from cancer!!!!!
Oh, good. Now Rush Limbaugh will rant that socialized medicine only cures socialists and dictators.
BHI, want a date with gaysmurfhoodlum????
gross! that poster is everything i dislike all rolled up in one!!!
Successful, witty, intelligent, nicely dressed????
Successful, witty, intelligent, nicely dressed????
those aren’t qualities on the top of my list when it comes to people i like.
witty and intelligent is fine… tho. successful and well dressed, eh, those characteristics usually cause problems.
Oh? Tell us what qualities you DO like.
*ignoring* cuz im better than that
Cgar: I just emailed you. I do apologize that in the haste of packing for my summer holiday I delayed completing a far more vital task.
Thanks, BHI. I received and replied to your email.
I stand corrected. The only one here imitating jester is Slopey.
Ahem. I thought you were done.
Sorry, Slopey. I couldn’t resist. Now I’m really done. Take it out of my draw.
anyone else’s “reply” button not working???
BHI, forgetfulness regarding social activities is something that I doubt readily happens to you.
In addition, it’s frowned upon here
I’m sure BHI has already fired the butler who neglected to remind him to email cgar.
Email reminders are in the domain of the social secretary.
Your move, cobble. This one’s getting away from you. Better play those cards, soon. (Either that or BHI’s seen Remains of the Day one too many times.)
LOL! I’m just biding my time, Slopey. Be patient. : P
I don’t understand why anyone would want to “out-WASP” another. A race to see who can be more dull? Who knows more Episcopal hymns by heart? Who has less interest in food? How many creative uses one can come up with for an empty Hermès box?
I’m not the one dropping ostentatious bits about my life here, BHI. As I said, I like to play my cards close to the vest, in true understated-WASP style.
Game. Set. Match. Well done, dear.
Besides, once they’re played, they won’t be soon forgotten and the OT has a memory like an elephant!
“forgetfulness regarding social activities is . . . frowned upon here”
Forgetfulness AFTER PLUSA social activities is, however, appreciated and expected.
Ivy, make these folks regret it – ie don’t buy them drinks at the gathering. if they hitting you up for free drinks, tell them “why dont you go ask Jester to buy you some??”
A true WASP never carries cash anyway. I prefer to host cocktails at home, but I think I will need at least one public meeting to determine if I will need to cover the carpets and lock up the silver in preparation for at-home entertainment.
“I think I will need at least one public meeting to determine if I will need to cover the carpets and lock up the silver in preparation for at-home entertainment”
Nothing to worry about. dave didn’t even lock up his phallus collection.
BHI, are you up in maine with friends, family daliances, or all three?
BHI, are you up in maine with friends, family, daliances, or all three?
Grandparents and parents. There are friends about and we meet up for tennis and such, but I am here for a week and am hiding for a couple of days to avoid exhausting my appeal in one go. We are sailing to Camden later for lunch and will, no doubt, run into people we know. By early afternoon, however, everyone has consumed enough gin to at least appear interesting.
Rob, why you such c oc k blocker for yourself man??
Rob, why you such c oc k blocker for yourself man??
cuz i dont want c*ck?
no, you blocking your own c*ck from getting some action
“action” is highly over rated. plus when i look at people all i see is disease.
would you think that if that hot Fedex girl offered you some? if you itching to think YES, please smack yourself now
i wouldnt want to have sex with her, i just appreciate her fineness. the thought of actual sex repulses me.
I suspect your wee wee wants a divorce from you.
Finally checked out that Nitehawk movie theater that opened up in WB a few weeks ago. Pretty enjoyable experience. Waiter service during shows works pretty well and not disruptive.
movie theatre waiter service and bedbugs… lovely
I got a window seat on the river side this morning.
For several miles I watched a barge in the middle of the river. With no reference points like buildings or trees in the foreground the barge just sort of floated off in the distance and spun slowly as the train went by. I’m not used to that kind of distance and perspective any more.
jackal — for old time’s sake:
river view from train
barge slowly floating, spinning
lose all perspective
Clapping for slopey, well done
[I’m fully clothed just for the record]
” I prefer to host cocktails at home, but I think I will need at least one public meeting to determine if I will need to cover the carpets and lock up the silver in preparation for at-home entertainment.”
Yes, as I did as well. Once I actually hosted a large group of them , I did leave both the antique Mexican sterling coffe urn out as well as the 18th Century sterling Boston teapot.
I am actually more anxious that my renovation and historically-sensitive redecoration will be flogged to death by barbed tongues, much like every H.O.T.D. I don’t think my homeowner’s policy covers blogger-inflicted shame.
Once they have a few drinks in them, they can’t tell the difference between a crown molding and a picture rail.
Can’t you all tell by his atitude that he hasn’t gotten any in years????
Calling them “bon mots” m ight be the understatement of the day
jackal, you never answered. Will your new gig be somewhere in midtown?
I know I never answered.
and wtf is a bon mot?
Look it up. Or don’t. I’m just “Charlie Brown’s teacher”, not a dictionary.
Seat by the window,
Looking at a spinning barge,
Gives me perspective.
Don’t encourage her, BHI
In certain forums, one must drop crumbs to guide fellow members of the tribe to a state of understanding. One simply can’t stand silently and be identified on sight. Alas, such crumb dropping appears ostentatious at best, or(horrors) like a gay cliché.
Sorry, Slopey. Update wasn’t working – I’d never have tried to heist your haiku.
Let’s just elave it at “great minds think alike.” Of course, if you start to make some real money off publication of your haiku, we’ll need to revisit.
I mean “leave.” Edit function never works for me.
BHI, does the “Ivy” part refer to your wall or your education???
And my facade of pseudo-cleverness continues to erode…
Hang in there, we tend to rake anyone *new* over the coals for a bit to test your mettle. Come out and meet us.
” the thought of actual sex repulses me.”
Spoken like a true WASP.
do i qualify as a wasp? i thought wasps were descendents of the pilmgrims.
Technically, perhaps. As a lady WASP once said when accused of being a Mayflower descendant: “Oh, no, dear! The Pilgrims came to this country to worship. WE came here to rule..” The Massachusetts Bay Company investors really started the whole Boston Brahmin thing.
I certainly think that if rob is allowed back then so too should randolph
Yeah, prolly. Randi isn’t as gross as Rob gets. Just annoying. : P
am i really even “allowed back?” ill probably be banned by noon.
there’s a lotta h8trs on this website.
one assumes it is not poison ivy.
What did ran get done for?
he said the “hot seat” thread girl was hot
I think randi said the Goh lady looked hot. Or something. It sounded somewhat banal, but I didn’t read it, and I guess Mr. B took offense.
She is. He did. So did I, but I kept it in the OT.
As you should. Mr. B seems to be generally allowing us to do whatever we want here. It’s just when the obnoxiousness leaks out into the regular threads or someone complains (about rob) that there seems to be a problem.
please go away and do not acknowledge me, gnat
I was talking to CGar, you idiot.
Thanks for the haiku, Arkady. I’ll let you and slopey work out any attribution / copyright issues on your own.
omg lol gross
Can anyone recommend a good Colonic spot?
That’s right. I’m asking if anyone knows a good ass cleaning place. My birthday is Saturday, and I want to start off my new year of life fresh. Literally fresh.
Thanx in advance.
Isn’t getting enemas either a new agey thing or a diet thing? Do normal people actually do that? Seems wrong to stick a hose up your ass and flush it out like that.
Everyone was afraid to touch them, CGar.
To be fair, they were in a glass case.
It’s call a secretary, cobble. Sheesh.
Whatever, you knew what I meant!
We’ve never known you to have any trouble getting people to touch your phallus, dave.
lady di was into that colonic thing.
and I mean the real lady diana, not rob’s drag name
Just eat some bran and fruit, rob, and save your money.
nobody wanted to touch – never know where they had been lately
my drag name is Princess Bergenline. (the name of your first pet and the first street you lived on)
Um no, that’s your porn star name. First pet, first street. Porn star name.
Mine is Buck Harlo.
no, it’s your drag name. your porno name is something else
That can’t possibly be right.
1. Everyone has an inner porn star
2. Not everyone has an inner drag queen. Only gay men, and probably only some percentage of them.
3. Even if I did have an inner drag queen, it couldn’t possibly be called Buck Harlo. However, that name is very 70s porn star.
Not everyone has an inner drag queen.
i beg to differ.
havent you ever watched RuPaul’s Drag Race?! Buck Harlo could totally be a drag queen name.
If we go with second pet / second street it sounds a little more drag namey. Shasta Riverside.
that’s a good one… if we go by second pet second street i’d be Skunk Granton
Mine is Brandy Hawthorne
that is amazingly trailer park!
I usually more want to touch thiers. Sometimes I’ll even pay for it.
Thank you for pointing that out, CGar. i was going to correct her but thought I’d embarass her in front of her new WASP friend.
yes, it’s called a secretary
Mine is Sidney Marlborough! : P
First pet, first street. = Happy Dick(inson).
cobble has a good point, which another PLUSA also made in an email to me. I think the problem is when OTesque comments escape from the OT and find their way into a thread for real people.
Sidney Marlborough is very WASPY. Like Sydney Biddle Barrows!!!
Revolting, isn’t it! : P
Buck was a white dog (no idea what breed, maybe a mutt?) that ran away from home and ended up at our place. I took care of him for a few days before his owners tracked him down. They gave me 20 bucks as a thanks for looking after him. The next day they called up and asked if I wanted the dog because they didn’t want him any more. He was wicked hyper all the time. He ended up getting hit by a car under rather suspicious circumstances.
my first pet princess was a blind black lab mix that slept in my crib with me. im pretty sure she also babysat me for the first few years of my life as well.
1st – Sammy Virgil, 2nd Stinky Longfellow.
Stinky Longfellow????? Most disturbing porn star name ever.
We drew names out of a hat for our cat – my brother won – chose Stinky because he smelled of fish cat food. Vet wouldn’t accept it for such an elegant Siamese & changed it to St. Inky on his records.
McGee Mayer? Pretty tame, I guess. We never moved when I was a kid, so no second/second.
PS Figures arkady would grow up on streets named for literary figures. What’s your third/third, arkady, Fido Voltaire?
Sorry, needs to be a cat, I imagine. Mittens DeFoe?
Secundus Blagden, Slopey.
4th – Godot Church
I’m a stickler for cleanliness of people I’m having sex with so, Stinky Longfellow won’t be entertaining me
Slopes, my mother’s dog was Angel Pig.
Current – Beckett Lincoln
I should name our next cat Louis, so that mine would be that of the sun king.
PS Note to Mrs. Slopey — don’t get any ideas, No next cat.
Blackie van der Donk
you guys have weird pet names
that’s what a fancy education yields. not the case with immigrants – ie max, chow chow,…. pet names
Toshi Seminary when I lived in Chicago
Our current cats are Howard & Ben and we live on Pine Street.
i hate when people name animals human names!!!!
Cussing again, Arkady???
Dave, the US markets are down only a little
Do the financial brainiacs think that our electeds are actually going to be able to avoid some kind of default? I have very little confidence that they will.
It’s all about showboating with them and very little about financial responsibility.
my porn name circa 2008 woulda been Max Frost
Wasn’t that the lead character in “Wild in the Streets”? 14 or fight!!!
OMG – I’m being vetted over pet names!
i had a spider named trina for quite some time on my windowsill. (i killed her this weekend tho) after seeing that spam people were tossing around on facebook of the girl who had a spider crawl under her skin.
Minard, the debt ceiling/default is the least of the worries out there. trust me, it will get done in the 11th hour.
If there were any chance of this being an issue, treasuries would have dropped dramatically. they havn’t budged in a month
rob, spiders lay eggs in your ear when you are asleep. if not treated, the larvae will eat it’s way into your brain
Dave, I truly believe that what we are seeing in DC is a for-real meltdown. I hope you are right that all will be resolved at the eleventh hour, but I thought that was yesterday at 4:00.
If anyone hasn’t seen/listened to this yet, it’s really touching and wonderful! I’m all teary!
No, actually it should be today because, from what I’m told, if it’s not resolved today, letters will go out automatically to SS recipients.
It technically just has to be by Aug 2.
I kind of expect a TARP-like finale. There’s sort of a deal, someone blows it up (prolly House GOP freshmen), market has a one-day freak-out, everyone gets scared $hitle$$, then a deal gets done. Market is probably sanguine about its ability to freak everyone else out sufficiently to get a deal done quickly if need be.
who can i complain to about getting shafted by new york state out of my refund? it’s rather frustrating that they can just keep my refund and tell me it will be credited on next years return. ive never heard of that happening before, but i want my 33 dollars, supposedly half of americans dont even pay f’ing taxes!!!
But, fear not, Obama will be back on TV bemoaning the fact that he’s been “left at the altar” yet again.
And, of course, it’s all the fault of the republicans because, as we know from discussions here, they are the only stubborn ones.
You might be surprised at how many repubs I’ve spoken with recently who are against what the repubs in DC are up to.
Yes, because John Boehner has been the poster child of bipartisanship. Last week he refused to take the President of the United States’ phone calls. Who the hell does he think he is?
They are not fooling anyone but themselves if they think they can bs the country into thinking they have our best interests in mind. Even rank and file Repubs are disgusted.
This is pure politicing with the American people as footballs to be punted around. A true bipartisan agreement is the only thing that will pass the House and Congress.
Write your state senator, rob.
who is our state senator and what’s his email address? i wouldnt mind giving him a piece of my mind!!
Wow, next thing you know, Rob will voting! : P
i will NEVER vote as i am an uncitizen
Tell your senator that when you write him and see what he says/does for you.
Be sure to let him/her know you’ve never voted, never intend to vote, and don’t even know who they are. That will be sure to get you on the fast track to your precious refund.
i politely asked you earlier that the three of you NOT acknowledge my presence, thank you very much.
Well, it was polite. But I’m going to ignore it anyway. : P
Rob, that’s an idiotic expectation of yours. This is the OT. Don’t post if you don’t want people to respond to you.
i have no problem with people responding to me, but i do however get sick and tired of being trounced on and personally attacked by the three WWs. i generally just ignore people i do not like, i dont know why they cant do the same.
And I politely told you that your polite little remarks mean nothing to me. I’ll reply to anyone I choose to, and comment on anyone’s remarks that I choose to.
and you are slanderous. do you know youre allowed to sue people on the internet for slander? perhaps you should think about that before saying anything to me. i am trying to be a nice person and the only way for me to do that is ignore you, cobble, and bxgirl. the three of you are petty and vicious, and slanderous. that’s not cool
WE should think before we say anything about you? WE weren’t the ones who were banned, bonehead!
You might be surprised what the dems will do to taxes and spending were the repubs not there to reign them in.
Look him up rob
Baby steps, Cobble.
Today’s New York Post reports that the construction of a replacement for the almost-obsolete Goethal’s Bridge may be delayed due to the budget negotiations in Washington. I guess the great states of New York and New Jersey are too busy spending their money on social services to be able to afford their own infrastructure upgrades.
The Post also reports that the top 4 bidders for the project are (in order):
1) China State Construction Engineering Corp.
2) Sweden-based Skanska
3) Spain-based ACS Infrastructure
4) A joint bid by US-based Kiewit and Australia’s Macquarie.
Isn’t that just great? This country doesn’t have the resources and know-how to expand its own infrastructure. Yes, let’s have yet another lecture on what a bastard Robert Moses was, shall we? Yes, let’s continue to gaze at our navel and admire tin ceilings from 100 years ago.
There’s only one delicious irony in all of this, and that is the ineffectiveness of the recent stimulus, compared to that of the Great Depression, when that bastard – Robert Moses – was working hand in hand with FDR’s administration to get the Triborough Bridge and the Bronx-Whitestone bridge built in record time. He also used WPA money to completely restore Central Park. President Obama wishes he had a bastard like Moses around, so that we would have something more to show than repaved roads.
Oh yes, let’s hear about how he distrupted the lives of people in building projects. Terrible. Of course, we don’t have that problem today, do we, cause we can’t get anything done.
On to tin ceilings!
> I guess the great states of New York and New Jersey are too
> busy spending their money on social services to be able to afford
> their own infrastructure upgrades.
Christie turned down federal money to build infrastructure.
Please try to stay reality-based.
Snort! Don’t confuse him with facts, Snarky! ; )
Oh please. Yeah, those day care centers in the inner city are taking the money right out of the bridge builder’s hot little hands. Blame those who have nothing, including power, because it’s ALL their fault.
Robert Moses could do no wrong. Sure, right.
And that tin ceiling comment is just absurd.Talk about hyperbole.
if a default, both parties will have poop on their faces. to think either party can walk away from this looking unscathed is pure idiotic thinking
Relax, it’ll get done.
Yes, let’s continue to gaze at our navel and admire tin ceilings from 100 years ago.
lol. so true, so true.
benson, you nailed it.
What exactly has the stimulus bill accomplished??? NOTHING
I dunno, I think the millions of people who were able to collect unemployment bennies, for which they paid into, for 99 weeks don’t think they were nothing. Especially when those benefits were the only thing between them and homelessness and hunger.
Ditto for Educational grants, etc, so people could get trained for new jobs, or continue their education, in spite of massive unemployment, and a myriad of other small things that made a big difference.
Many of the WPA type projects that you are looking for also started up. Not everything that was done has to be a flashy, gigantic Hoover Dam. Plugging the holes in the dam counts for something too.
The flashy projects that you and Benson want, and even the president wants, were not ready to roll, and then political bs stopped many of them. No, the stimulus package was not all it was touted to be, but it wasn’t “nothing” either. Ask those who used the lifeline it provided.
I would add a few thoughts on this — 1. Unemployment would have been worse, more folks default on homes, etc., without the jobs and income ARRA generated. 2. Some of the funding went for infrastructure you can’t see — like upgrades in information infrastructure in health industry, as but one example. But I do think that ARRA erred in favoring spending speed/readiness over prioritizing major projects and spending where there are the best multipliers. 3. I believe (but don’t know) that 30s era fed spending was much greater $$ intervention as % of GDP. Had ARRA involved fed spending comparable to new deal spending, more big projects could have gotten done, although lower relative wages, lesser work safety rules and the like favor more projects for the money in 30s. It is also different to build in an environment that isn’t already built.
Finally, as for RM, good vs. evil arguments sort of miss the point. he build lots of stuff and got lots of stuff done. I draw a distinction between early v. late RM. By his later years, the implications of how he built were becoming clearer, and rather than adapt, he maintained a “my way or the highway” perspective, or, should I say, my way is the highway. It would not have taken much, for example, to shift the cross bronx a few blocks, or the Gowanus one block, to minimize neighborhood disruption. But he actually thought it was a good idea to smash through lower-income neighborhoods because he didn’t value the neighborhoods much at all. It would not have taken much to incorporate mass transit into his highway plans. So in teh end I think RM was a success as a builder, but the later RM was largely a failure as a planner. What he built is astonishing, but how he built and what he chose not to build has left us with foreseeable problems we still struggle with.
I agree with every word you said.
I would point out though that it’s physically impossible to gaze at your navel AND a tin ceiling at the same time.
Chrisite turned the money down because he knew that there’d be huge cost overruns.
> Smart man
No, stupid, short-sighted man.
Nice try, but niot factual. Christie turned down a project in which the feds would have contributed a small portion ofn teh project’s cost. New Jersey would have been on the hook for the great majority of the cost.
So in other words, Christie turned down federal money for infrastructure.
Since NJ would be the principle beneficiary of this project, why is it odd that NJ was “on the hook”?
I have heard that “relax it will get done” line before, usually preceding some catastrophe.
My bigger issue is why bother having a debt ceiling if when you reach it you vote to increase it? Doesn’t that seem a little counter-productive?
“My bigger issue is why bother having a debt ceiling if when you reach it you vote to increase it? Doesn’t that seem a little counter-productive? ”
Not a lot at the federal government level makes any sense. Why should this?
there we agree.
the idea of a debt ceiling should be to try to avoid reaching it. i have some ideas: do we really need two wars? can’t we make do with one?
And do we really need so many people in Congress? How about cutting the number of representatives in half?
“do we really need two wars? can’t we make do with one?”
LOL! How about NONE!
> do we really need two wars?
Three if we’re counting Libya.
Four or five if we are counting drone attacks in Pakistan and Yemen.
This train accident that happened in China is just the tip of the iceberg. The quality of the infrastructure that has been built so rapidly is very inferior. The emporer will be shown to be wearing no clothes
Here’s a FACT: New York State spends almost half its budget on Medicaid. New York’s State spends more on Medicaid than California, which had double its population. It is a no-growth, broke state that cannot afford to expand its infrastrcuture. Everyone knows that the Tappan Zee bridge is obsolete, but the state has no money to replace it.
So are you trying to say that we cut out Medicaid? In order to build a bridge?
NO, of course not and he wasn’t saying that.
MM – I think we solve both issues by building bridges out of the bones of the poor.
Yes, make them build the bridge and when they drop dead, use them for spare parts. : (
If that can be their only contribution to society, then so be it.
benson’s right about Medicaid.
medicaid is poor people insurance right? or is that medicare? what is the difference?
politicians’ primary objective is to have & maintain a political career so can’t see them risking their career in letting the US default where they know no one can walk away from a default without a ton of damage
Was there some accident on the BQE/nearby? There are helicopters hovering over here, and it’s really loud!
Ditmas, benson’s right. the fed was only going to supply a very small portion and NJ had to pay the rest, including the inevitable cost overruns.
Christie was right to turn it down. They could not guarantee the full cost of the project.
OK, but I would think that you – as somebody who complains here about train service on at least a weekly basis – might also think it was a short-sighted decision.
I learned something on Brownstoner today. The Hoover Dam and the Triborough Bridge were “flashy” projects. Who knew?
I look forward to Texas adding yet more congressional seats in 10 year. There’s just no getting through.
I would call a giant dam in the middle of nowhere “flashy”.You think that, or a span crossing three boroughs to be low key?
The thought of a state that routinely executes people, even grandmothers and developmentally disabled people, and distributes textbooks worthy of the Middle Ages, having more representation, is scarier than your constant attempts to belittle my comments, You just don’t know how to disagree without being disagreeable, do you?
We are back to square one. My original point was that the states of New York and New Jeresey cannot afford their own infrastructure projects, and THAT is why Christie cancelled that project. The fact that the feds were willing to chip in a bit did not alter that reality.
petty & visciuos yes, but slanderous?
yes dave, Slander. it’s a law word.
Noun: The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person’s reputation.
What false statement? Waiting for the “false statement”…….waiting…….waiting………
If you want to be picky about it, being called a “wicked witch” by you is considered slander. Think about that one for a hot minute, while I consult my lawyers.
Uh-oh, Looks like rob has been reading the dictionary!
I think the problem is that these infrastructure projets are always delayed and WAY over budget.
Also, the current operational/management/labor issues are completely different at Amtrak than any capital budget issue
[patiently waiting for an example of how *rob* has been slandered]
Cobble, you’d be surprised what you can find online. You can even visit Paris.
Really! Wow! I’m leaving now! Off to the Seychelles!
Anybody who scratches the surface of New York State’s Medicaid just a bit knows that it costs twice as much than California’s for 2 reasons:
a) it is the equivalent of a “State-sponsored enterprise”, in which politicians create work for health-care workers, and in return get the all-important backing of SEIU 1199.
2) it is rife with corruption and fraud. Ever hear of a medicaid mill?
When folks like you wake up and stop characterizing any attempt to reform this program as “an attack on the poor” and see it for what it is, then maybe this state will grow again. Until then, you can look forward to continuing stories on the loss of population, wealth and political power to other states.
So if Medicaid is rife with corruption, then we fix it. I’d hardly blame the unions for every corrupting influence on Medicare. If the unions were Republican, there wouldn’t be a peep about their participation in the system. As it is, they represent a group of people who are barely compensated to doing jobs no one else wants to do. The real Medicare fraud is in bogus billing and ordering, which involves people higher up on the chain than some poor shlub emptying bed pans. Let’s fix that, and jail some higher ups. You’d see some real reform there.
Dammit, I’m falling into the “OT is all about rob” trap crap again. I think I’ll go make my frittata for dinner.
Dave, train accidents can happen anywhere. At least they built a fast-speed train.
rob was apparently just banned again!!!!!!
For what? Just being rob?
I have to agree with benson about the enormous fraud and corruption in NYS.
And then there is the waste! It’s depressing to even think too much about it.
MM, despite the flashiness of both the dam and the bridge, that was certainly not the motivation. Get real.
What is wrong with the two of you? I said the dam was flashy, as in a large WPA project that everyone knows about and remembers. That’s all I meant by flashy, and all anyone else would read into it, if they weren’t ready to disagree with anything I say anyway. I never said it wasn’t a good thing for America, or anything else. Sheesh.
I only used it to illustrate that just because we didn’t get any Hoover Dams out of the stimulus package, doesn’t mean that the package wasn’t worth anything. The Hoover Dam is a non-issue. Talk about making the tail wag the dog.
We need to get out of iraq, Afghanistan & Libya because when it comes down to Iran, we’re going to need all our firepower.
I completely agree with Dibs on this comment. I also believe that we should reinstate the draft. We would think longer and harder about what we are doing if the sacrifice of life was spread equally among all Americans.
If you had kids you wouldn’t be saying that!
I would call a giant dam in the middle of nowhere “flashy”.”
Good lord!!! I can’t take this mentality. If you take a look at the 1924 aerial view of NYC that Scott publicized last Friday, you will see subway lines running through areas that were still farmland. Infrastrcurcture drives growth. The Hoover Dam was responsible for the enormous post-WWII growth of the western states.
I give up. There’s just no getting through.
No one said the Hoover Dam wasn’t a good thing, Benson, what is your problem?
It was pretty much insinuated by your comment:
“I would call a giant dam in the middle of nowhere “flashy”.”
See my reply, and get off the damn Dam already. What the hell is wrong with you guys today?
“As it is, they represent a group of people who are barely compensated to doing jobs no one else wants to do. ”
First of all, the majority of union employees are government workers, including teachers.
I think its lame how you parrot Lech’s catch phrase, even down to the all caps
Yes, I read Caro’s great thesis about Robert Moses too, and I still call it BS. Wow, so you mean the guy made some mistakes? Amazing! Yes, that’s definitely cause to bring us to the present state of things, where it takes $1 BILLION DOLLARS AND TEN YEARS to replace the Kocsiusko (sp?) bridge.
Newsflash: great people sometimes make mistakes. As far as I’m concerned, it’s OK as long as their batting average is good.
I imagine we disagree on what constitutes a “mistake”, not to mention RM’s post-war batting average. Perhaps we should discuss over a beer rather than OT, because I suspect that in person, an interesting discussion may develop. I am not sure we could sustain that discussion here, where everything gets polarized.
I don;t know anything about medicaid but I know that highway repair jobs that could be done in a couple of weeks in any other civilized city take months and even years in NYC. Have you driven up the Harlem River Drive lately? Unbelievable conditions due to the rebuilding of a minor bridge to the Bronx which is now going on its fifth year. How about the BQE and Gowanus Expressway? These are not roads to be proud of in the supposed financial capital of the world.
And then there is the MTA. Hopeless, the head of that agency was so right to get the heck out and get triple the salary in Hong Kong – a rich city, rather than staying and seeing the complete collapse and default of the NYC transit system in what has become the city where there is never any money for anything.
I will stop now. It is time for lunch and thinking about life-affirming things.
I don’t know cobble but i suspect Mr B is more irritable these days given how the site is
Very well said, Minard. The delays and cost overruns are atrocious.
At least CA knows how to manage a project…that “carmageddon” bridge repair was amazing
Dave the carmegeddon thing was amazing! that is how things should get done in a first-world city.
In NYC we have been having carmegeddon on the Gowanus for the last twenty years.
“carmageddon” was one step in an 8 year, $1 billion construction project to add a carpool lane for one direction on a stretch of freeway.
They were demolishing half a bridge over the freeway so they can build a new one in the exact same place.
CA DOT did not do anything different form what any other transport agency would do.
It was successful because the media made such a big deal of it that everyone was scared to attempt alternate routes that weekend.
If you want innovative, in the late 90s an entire elevated freeway was shut down in downtown Houston for over a month so that the complete project could take a few months instead of a few years.
Lech didn’t invent that phrase, blowfish, it’s all over the internet.
wonder if the projects were won by the Chinese company, how would they deal with the local union forces – ie I suspect the Chinese company has little experience in that space
The Hoover Dam was constructed between 1931 and 1935.
During that period, virtually everyone’s income tax DOUBLED.
Taxes are currently the lowest they’ve been in decades, and yet it is Medicaid’s fault that we don’t have any money for infrastructure?
Snarkie…feel free to pay more taxes. You can send in a check at any time.
Fine. Propose to people that their taxes should be doubled to pay for infrastructure, after we were just assured that t $800 Billion was going to go into tangible “shovel-ready” projects. Also tell the folks of New York State that their Medicaid program is fine. It’s just the right thing that we should spend double what California does (a state with a huge poor immigrant population). The program is just humming along.
taxes in NYC are highest in the USA. And yet we are the city that is perpetually broke, that cannot even build a little waterfront park without additional income from new real estate development to “maintain” it.
Snarkie, most people paid a marginal rate of between 6 and 15% in 1930.
why are we acting/defending our respective parties as if they have done NO WRONG or are we locked into perpetual finger pointing mode??? Both parties have F’d up big time and need to do alot to fix things. To constantly point finger at the other party is childish and low value-add. It’s time to INTERNALIZE
Scott, Mr B said 1 more flagging and your behind is toast
I have no idea why post I made was automatically flagged.
It included the words ugly and overpriced
My favorite NYTimes story of the week was the piece in yesterday’s paper about adding a tax on “bad” food. Soda pop, french fries, chips, “bad” food gets an excise tax and that will make poor people buy brocoli instead.
It was classic Times. “Better living through new taxes”.
Bloomberg has supported the tax on soda; I am getting fed up with Bloomberg and his nanny state stuff like this and no smoking outside in parks and beaches (bike program too).
“It included the words ugly and overpriced ”
Maybe the fact that you were describing your weekend escapades with that cheap sorry w h o r e from the bronx.
Minard, I’m actually all for those sort of taxes
And I don’t really care if it changes their behaviour.
95% of the people think it’s a tax on soda but in reality it’s a tax on the added sugar, which is very detrimental to your health. If people continue to dring soda (as opposed to 100% juice and other healthy alternatives) then they should pay for it.
What’s the difference sugar-wise beetween soda and juice? they’re both looaded with sugars. They body can’t distinguish between orange juice sugar and cola sugar.
no difference. Then we get to decide on Snoballs, cheez doodles, doritos etc. etc. It is silly. It is also a regressive tax.
Minard, 100% juice does not have added refined sugar. there’s a big difference between refined sugar (including HFCS) and natural sugars.
Yes, the body does distinguish between natural juice sugars and added refined sugars
Dave, that’s old thinking. newer science says zippo difference between sugar from oranges and sugar from beets or corn.
Actually, a lot of 100% juice is made using white grape juice reduced to a syrup to concentrate the sugars. Perhaps not as bad, but not great. Best to eat fruit and drink water, not drink fruit juices. But yes, Welches is healthier than Mountain Dew.
I water juice down to 50%. Full strength tastes too sweet/syrupy to me now. Even if it’s fresh squeezed.
I not a health nut by any stretch of imagination, but I do try to severely limit our intake of HCFS.
With snack it’s the added salt. But that’s what makes Fritos sooooo good
I think taxing soda and crummy foods is not a bad idea. But it should be done in tandem with a public food education program. Con Ed has a very good education program in the subway about how to save energy. I think the gubment could do something similar and it would be a REAL public service. I really don’t think people understand how bad sugar is.
Cobble, have you ever seen the subway ads on drinking sugary drinks. It has a glass with soda and big globs of human fat hanging out of the glass. It is gross. It’s tag line is something about the relation of obesity to how many sugery drinks one has per day.
No, I have not. I’ve had a talk with more than one store owner who had NOTHING natural in the drink cases.
Fake sweeteners are really really bad for you. They mess with your metabolism.
“Fake sweeteners are really really bad for you. They mess with your metabolism.”
cobble, really? why do you say that? I’m interested to know.
I’ve read that they don’t satisfy the same thing as natural sugar and so people actually eat more. Also, the side effects of some of them can be nasty. I don’t eat anything with that in it, or “diet” on the packaging. It’s all crap/fake food.
Eat real food people!
The less processed, the better. The less fake or other sugar, the better. The less fat, the better.
Fake sugar is one of the worst things (maybe THE worst thing) for your bones.
You are wrong, Minard, as you are that the HOTD is only 2 stories plus basement.
If you ate fresh beets and fresh corn it’s a big difference than consuming a sugar that is REFINED from them. That sugar obtained from the refining prcess is a different sugar form (usually fructose) than what you would get if you SQUEEZED beets and corn.
The science is basic and simple.
Are we the crocodiles staring into the abyss of time?
Or birds on a wire? Lemmings on a cliff?
Did you see Cave of Forgotten Dreams. Beautiful, if slow and slightly odd movie about cave drawings from 25,000 years ago. But Herzog ends with this weird meditation about these white alligators living in water warmed by a nuclear plant and makes the comment I quoted. It’s my favorite all-purpose non-sequitor of late.
I haven’t seen it, but I heard him interviewed on NPR, and watched a clip. But I wasn’t motivated enough to get out and see it.
Excellent. We need more non-sequitors to break things up. AND MORE PUNNING! ; )
Sorry Dave, but you are mistaken, not I.
Sorry Minard but you are the one who doesn’t know the science.
I’m the one with the high triglycerides and definitely know the difference between refined sugars and natural fruit juice.
triglycerides are fats in the blood. elevated levels are usually hereditary, doesn’t matter whether you drink juice, cola, or water.
you need statins.
Here’s part of it, simplified:
“Many fruit juices have a higher sugar (fructose) content than sweetened soft drinks; e.g., typical grape juice has 50% more sugar than Coca Cola. While soft drinks (e.g. Coca Cola) cause oxidative stress when ingested and may even lead to insulin resistance in the long term, the same thing cannot be attributed to fruit juices. On the contrary, fruit juices are actually known for their ability to raise serum antioxidant capacity and even offset the oxidative stress and inflammation normally caused by high-fat and high-sugar meals
Also, “high fructose” is an industry definition, different from ordinary (natural) fructose
Ducks in a row? Pigs in a Sty?
Rabbits in a den? Lions on the plain?
Peas in a pod? Eggs in a basket?
Minard, you have a weak grasp of these sort of things. At your age you should be more aware.
it certainly does matter what you consume, to believe otherwise is naive, ignorant or stupid.
did you really meant to say “or” stupid vs. “and” stupid?
The only natural sweetner out there now on the market in bulk form is stevia, under the brand name Truvia
The only other issue with fruit juices (100% juice) is that they lack the fiber that you would get from eating the actual fruit
Just use regular sugar but don’t eat like a goddamn cow.
how many miles were you able to log last week?
Log? I did no logging last week. None at all.
All well and good jackal but most people don’t know the harmful effects of added sugar. The parents are ultimately to blame.
The people I see leaving the bodega with a coke and a bag of snack food really need a slap in the face.
Raising the price 100% might accomplish that.
I did however run 8.5 miles yesterday, in the heat, wearing a backpack, up and down a hill and through some woods.
is the backpack a requirement for your half marathon or you using it to make the training more intense?
I wear it to hydrate on hot days. Fill it with water and a change of clothes. Yesterday I finished my run at a friend’s house, showered, changed, had a bbq.
I don’t drink either sodas or juices because they are both equally fattening and I tend to get a bit hyperglycemic afterwards. But Dave, if a thin person like yourself has elevated triglycerides it is genetic and can be brought down by statins, not by orange juice for heavens sake. High triglycerides are bad but worse is a high c-reactive enzyme, at your age you should be tested and be more aware of these things. Also don’t try to be such a know-it-all.
“I did however run 8.5 miles yesterday, in the heat, wearing a backpack, up and down a hill and through some woods.”
WOW, WHAT A MAN. If only you were darker skinned, had a nice head of jet black hair and maybe were a mouth breather I’d be soooo in love.
DIBS, the agent I was dealing with is a handsome white boy with a very dark tan – would he get some interest from you??
truvia tastes bad
and you know how a s s taste like???
Add almond shaped eyes and/or an Aztecan nose to that description as well.
Single epicanthal folds would be the icing on the cake.
DIBS, Could you be a little more specific about what you like? : P
No, scratch that. DO NOT!
Perhaps a visual…..
[bring back memories of the beach?]
dh, when was the first time you tasted a s s????
Unexpected thing about life in the suburbs: Most of the guys in my neighborhood are in better shape than I am. Like everyone is really trim and in shape. In brooklyn I always felt like I was in really good shape because most of the men are purse carrying slobs. Now I feel like I’m the slob.
Also, from my vast experience, a s s should not actually have ANY taste if it is clean.
“purse carrying slobs”
The straight ones or the gay ones????
All of them. The straight ones in particular. Superannuated hipsters, metrosexual husbands, etc.
gotta love the edit function – now you guys look weird
Why dh, because you deleted your post that said “Truvia tastes lik a s s”
good save – you’d be surprised if you go back and see how many times i’ve changed posts of mine that you’ve agreed with
This is scary. I think i agreed with benson once. Lord knows what the thread now says i agreed with. Of course, that’s a two-way street.
edit only works if folks refresh the page; not so via the real time SHOW feature
LOL! DH’s comment is preserved for posterity!
Cat plays with ipad….
That was great! I have to send the link to BH, he’ll crack up!
given the edit feature, what version is store in Google cache – original post or edited post at end of the day???
first google can’t search facebook and now it can’t cache brownstoner, OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So a domesticated animal figures out a basic task that even an illiterate human child could master in about 10 seconds. Why is that cute or funny? Call me when someone’s pet does something impressive for a change. Like mastering the English language, or maybe calculus. Animals are pretty pathetic when you think about it. Good thing a lot of them are tasty.
Oh hush up, lech, your lack of sense of humor is showing.
Is BHI back from yachting yet???
guess his nooners take the whole afternoon
We forgot to ask him where he keeps his yacht.
OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD THIS IS SOOOOOOO CUTE!!!!! I PUT PANTS ON MY DOG!!! SERIOUSLY, PANTS….. ON A DOG!!!!! LOL! THAT’S SO CUTE AND FUNNY AND IMPRESSIVE BECAUSE IT’S SOMETHING THAT A HUMAN WITH AN IQ OF 55 OR SO MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO!!!!! PANTS~!!!!!
It’s a cat, lech. They don’t usually play with iPads. Get a sense of humor or clam up. : P
Dog, cat, whatever. Call me when it grows opposable thumbs and a brain larger than a pea.
Do you and the fam have any pets?
Yeah, starting with Buck. Come on, we talked about this like 4 hours ago.
OH F U C K OFF JACKAL, YOU’RE BEING AN A S S
Maybe we should act all impressed and LOL a lot when a human figures out how to do a basic dog or cat thing. Like drinking water with one’s tongue, or licking one’s own balls or something.
being able to lick ones own balls would be a gamechanger for dudes.
are you going to edit this one too???
Dark Harbor, Cobble. He told us this morning
Here’s a cute place in Dark Harbor
Nice, except for the silly canopy bed.
no discussion of amy winehorse today?
I’m a little sad, and a little angry over her death. But it wasn’t a surprise.
nah, her unfortunate demise was very predictable and self-fulfilling.
I’m sorry she died so young. But what a wasted opportunity for a great and productive life. Thrown away, like Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, and Jimmy Hendrix. I don’t understand self-destructive behavior like that.
yeah – she had skills. addition is scary
Almost everyone you mention died at the age of 27, btw.
When we moved to Irvington I told my kids we would get cats. But then I started thinking about it and it dawned on me:
1. Cats are dumb as rocks.
2. Cats dont’ know how to use a goddamn toilet.
3. Cats scratch things.
4. Cats shed.
5. Have to buy food for cats.
6. Can’t leave on vacation without doing something with cats.
7. Cats are incapable of carrying on conversation about anything interesting.
8. Cats don’t contribute financially.
So I told the kids no, not going to get one after all. They’ll get over it.
Cats everywhere are glad you aren’t getting one. Too bad for your kids though, every kid should have a pet at some time in their childhood.
We take them to the farm and let them play with farm animals. Useful animals that have a sensible place in the food chain.
You’re just a barrel of laughs, aren’t you?
I bet you won’t let your kids read or watch Charlotte’s Web, either. Book is a heretical challenge to the food chain.
Nah, that fine because it’s obviously about people and not animals. White Fang or Buck, well I guess those are about animals but not ones that suck. I can’t think of a book that’s about a non-anthropomorphized domestic animal. You know why? Because domestic animals are boring and add no value. Can you imagine a book that’s just about someone’s housecat without anthropomorphizing it?
Day 1: “duuuuuhhhh duhhhh duuhhhhh string! duhhhh duuhhhh food!! duhhh duhhhhh nap!!”
Day 2: “duuuuuhhhh duhhhh duuhhhhh string! duhhhh duuhhhh food!! duhhh duhhhhh nap!!”
Day 3: “duuuuuhhhh duhhhh duuhhhhh string! duhhhh duuhhhh food!! duhhh duhhhhh nap!!”
> Can you imagine a book that’s just about someone’s housecat
Probably about as exciting as a book about most people:
Day 1: “duuuuuhhhh duhhhh duuhhhhh tv! duhhhh duuhhhh food!! duhhh duhhhhh sleep!!”
Day 2: “duuuuuhhhh duhhhh duuhhhhh tv! duhhhh duuhhhh food!! duhhh duhhhhh sleep!!”
Day 13: “duuuuuhhhh duhhhh duuhhhhh tv! duhhhh duuhhhh food!! duhhh duhhhhh sleep!!”
Lech imagines himself to be soo much more interesting.
1-3, 5, 7-8: Could say the same thing about babies/toddlers. You had those, didn’t you?
6. Pay someone to come in and feed once a day. Cats do best during vacations if allowed to stay at home.
Yeah but babies / toddlers turn into useful mammals. Cats just stay cats.
dh, I’m more intrigued by the coincidences that led to the formation of the “27 Club”
I’m surprised you ever had kids, jackal
Kids learn stuff like the English language, mathematics, wiping their own bottom, getting a job. Cats do none of those things.
I’ve never really cared for pets, and it’s been 6 years since we had one (a rabbit)
I think he’s just baiting people. It could be fun though to watch
Why did my morning post just reappear?
I support banning smoking in parks and beaches, but more because of the cigarette butt litter than then health reasons.
I don’t know what it is about smoking that makes people incapable of taking care of their own trash.
Some of her music is actually quite good.
1. Cats are dumb as rocks. When have you seen a rock retrieve or sit up?
2. Cats dont’ know how to use a goddamn toilet. YouTube has cats using toilets (& humans knowing where apostrophes belong.)
3. Cats scratch things. So do you if it itches.
4. Cats shed. Save the hair, felt it & knit w/ it.
5. Have to buy food for cats. Worth it for the pleasure they give.
6. Can’t leave on vacation without doing something with cats. Stay home.
7. Cats are incapable of carrying on conversation about anything interesting. My guys are constantly chatting about things – real give & take & no truculent snark.
8. Cats don’t contribute financially. Sure they do if you write an article about them & get paid for it.
But that of course is also true of janis, Jim, Jimi and Kurt
Jackal, you have seriously outdated info. Cats CAN use the toilet and flush too. There is a way to train them to do it. You might have to wipe the seat before YOU use it though.
Women don’t look to see if the seat is down on the toilet before they use it, and then complain to the men about it.
this is 1 of the very few debates that I won hands-down with the wife. toilet seat down is HER responsibility.
So did *rob* already get voted off the island again?
Si. Dumbass must have either snuck back in, or said something dumb. Again. Shocking, no? : P
Either scenario works for me, Cobble.
betchya he is collecting this as badge of honor on his boys scout belt
No doubt, minus the boy scout part.
Ok, Benson quick question before I get back to work.
Do you have any idea why the Gowanus expressway is such a disaster? Why is is perpectually under construction? Is the design of this highway wrong for large commercial traffic? Someone told me the story of a retiring DOT worker who spent his entire 30 year career on the Gowanus expressway.
Yes, Ditmas, he was banned again. Not sure why.
We can start our own ongoing version of the FIPS breeded/baller debates but with pets instead of children.
Some people like pets, others don’t. What’s the big deal?
I bet lech has 2 cats and a dog at home.
I’ll light the fire
You put the flowers in the vase
That you bought today
Staring at the fire
For hours and hours
While I listen to you
Rant on brownstoner
All night long for me
Only for me
Come to me now
And rest your head for just five minutes
Everything is good
Such a cosy room
The windows are illuminated
By the sunshine through them
Fiery gems for you
Only for you
Our house is a very, very fine house
With two cats in the yard
Life used to be so hard
I had to take the F train
And travelling on Metro North is easy
‘Cause of you
And our la,la,la, la,la, la, la, la, la, la, la…..
Our house is a very, very fine house
With two cats in the yard
Slopey….that’s why it’s called the “27 Club” dummy
slopey walked right into that.
I demand an ID verification cause this is so unbecoming of the law firm founder. this on top of him imagining Lech NAKED too. Where the heck is Biff when you need him????
I think I’d prefer the company of our two cats over that of most people.
Yes, the company of two pussies sounds downright lovely, though I’m surprised you would enjoy that sort of thing DIBS.
Likewise, VC is really good company. And she likes to snuggle in the morning and nap times.
I think I pi ss ed off Minard, both here and in the HOTD.
Don’t worry he’ll be back and you will be best of friends, calling one another j a ck ass es in no time.
Dave, I’m not pissed in the least, I may not be BHI but I am pretty detached from the fray. Besides I have a lot of experience dealing with Narcissists. Which brings me to my point: really between us, how long you been sayin’ you’re 54?
i’m turning 27 soon – better lay off the crack
“i’m turning 27 soon”
F U C K Y O U D H!
Die young, stay pretty:
*rob* was banned AGAIN? Seriously? Why? He was fairly well-behaved. For *rob*. No offense to the coven.
Whatever. He acts like a jackass, and he gets what’s coming to him.
BHI is back from yachting. He just appeared in HOTD.
Oh yay! Lure him back in here, and let’s ply him with more questions.
Yeah, that’s just what Mr. B needs to regain traffic on this site: sanitized, politically-correct comments.
By this time next week I’ll be 68.
I was 27 x 2 last year
I will be 27*2 in a few months.
I can hear DH now: “Old people have no sense of humour.”
what’s dh talkin OLD. He is the one zzzzzzz’ing all the time.
I will be 49 at the end of next month.
Going on 75
Apparently “pretty” is relative from that 1979 video!!!!
“Polite conversation”, dave? Really? I think not.
I figured I’d best stop snarking in HOTD lest I get banned.
CGar, mummy dearest, your bandages still on????
Nope. All the bandages are off, though I will show you a picture that will give you a good laugh at my expense.
Still having trouble removing the medical tape though. (S T F U jackal.)
I’m old enough to start thinking of not responding when people ask about my age.
After I turn 50, I’m going to start telling people that I’m 60. So I can hear them tell me how great I look for my age! : P