208-Midwood-0409.jpgWhen 208 Midwood Street in Prospect Lefferts Gardens was a House of the Day back in September, the small brownstone was asking $1,150,000, a lot for the nabe but worth trying for given the gorgeous interiors. In the end, though, the market spoke and the seller had to settle for $995,500, just shy of the mansion tax. Is this price what you expected? GMAP


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  1. Great story, Brooklynista. And BrooklynGreene, where did you find that real estate copy? Hilarious, especially “omelette-ready.” I’m going to use that to describe everything from now on.

  2. Brooklynista… that’s awesome! Truly is. By the way, I hope you didn’t think I was trying to make you feel guilty about your tax rate… certainly not! Your tax rate is based on what you bought, namely a $275k house that has appreciated and the tax rate has gone up probably faster than inflation, but not as fast as the market value — that makes sense. You made this neighborhood and house your home.

    Now… if you sold today for a cool million? Should the buyers get your tax rate?! My opinion, ABSOLUTELY NOT. They freely decided to pay a million bucks, they should have to pony up the taxes…. and not just the one-time “mansion tax.” But, herrumph, they heavily monied individuals get the benefit of your rate based on 1980-something and don’t add anything to the city’s coffers even though they paid a price that is double the “original” price (adjusted for inflation).

    As you can imagine, I’ll probably return to this notion of tax reform in the future… given the city’s fiscal condition, I don’t think there’s a choice to do something about it (and not just by metaphorically raping the new construction and “conversions” with the FULL market value tax assessments because it’s the only time the annual cap doesn’t apply.)

    Again, Brooklynista, may you live long in your home! You’re actually the type of owner that I like very very very much. You actually bought a property to *keep* — not just a glorified rental situation where you are just planning on living there for a 2 to 5 years, and then plan on cashing in on a huge profit. (i.e., bubble makers.) Oh, by the way, I don’t think you’re crazy… you’re the opposite of crazy… Now, the person that buys your house in 25 years for $9.8 million, they’re the crazy ones!!!

  3. Thank you Brooklynista,

    I feel the same way about Fort Greene. The neighborhood sat a bit (actually, very) fallow after 1989 and I don’t think prices went up any until, I want to say, 1997–maybe a touch earlier or later–so it was about 8 years of “hanging around” in our neck of the woods.

    Now…granted, maybe we’re just spitting into the wind, and this major “correction” that we’re now going through will be really bad and last a long, long time. But honestly, I remember some pretty tough times in the 70’s. The recession was awful and unemployment was so high. In hindsight, it seems worse than the current one…it was spread over a longer period. Right now the plunge has been rather breath-taking and almost like a “crash” but it seems like it won’t be a long grueling mess.

    But who knows, right?

    And look what happened to Fort Greene. When you bought in PLG, who knew? Right? And Fort Greene, who knew? Well…actually, *I* “knew”. I was sure that Fort Greene with it’s incredible subway/bus/LIRR hub, housing stock, BAM and proximity to Manhattan would eventually help it to take off…and it did. Although, I must admit, I couldn’t actually picture how profound the change would be during the last eight or so years.

    I hope the kids who are buying houses for $1-point-whatever up to $3m in Fort Greene can stick it out and will be happy they did. Fie on all the “Brownstones Half Off” people!

    Thanks Brooklynista!

  4. Well, it wasn’t until after I hit the “send” button that I wondered why the heck I chose to get personal about the differences in the PLG real estate market over the past 2 decades! 🙂 Now having done that, I guess I might as well just take it bit further. So get this: In the late 1980’s there was another major bubble going on. We were living in Harlem at the time and wanted to stay there. But the bubble was so out of hand that you could not buy anything more than a total shell for $250K — even in Harlem– at that time. So, priced out of Manhattan, we turned back to Brooklyn (home borough of our very first apartment in Crown Heights).

    It took us over six months of looking in several Brooklyn neighborhoods before we finally stumbled upon our house in PLG. The moment we saw it, we knew the search was over. It was a beautiful house, in move-in-condition, in a fantastic location and we made our offer almost immediately. I remember all the new neighbors being shocked at the price we paid for our house. We were pretty shocked ourselves. I also remember us leaving the closing and having only $80 to our name until the next pay day. We bought a little figurine to sit on the mantle in the rear parlor and went to brunch to celebrate! The rest we saved to buy a few groceries and transportation money until we could get our hands on our next pay checks.

    It also seemed as if the day after the closing the market tanked. And it stayed tanked for another 10 years! Indeed, if we had tried to sell our house anywhere during the 10 year period immediately following our purchase, we would have sold at a loss. Plus, it was damn hard managing that note each month but we hung in there, putting off on renovations and anything other than most essential home improvements for longer than I would ever care to admit.

    So, keeping it real, and I repeat — 20+ years later, we’re damn glad to have seen our investment pay off! And hell no, we don’t feel guilty about the tax rate we’re paying. (It’s still a hard nut to crack!) Say what you will about PLG, but we love it and feel that our neighborhood is getting better with each passing day.

    Bottom line is that we bought here at a time when very few who are now posting to this blog even knew the name of the nabe or where it was located, much less seriously considered living here. And, of course, that same kind of attitude about PLG back then is still evident among some posters here today. IOW, you would have called us “crazy” to pay what we paid to be here in the late 80’s just like you will call some of us “crazy” who choose PLG today. Whatever. We’re still holding on our bet and grinning. 🙂

  5. Well, I just had a look at what sells for this kind of money…curious…

    “All three floors of this renovated, new-birth brownstone have so much to offer.” “NEW-BIRTH”??? Is this some hip term I’m not aware of? If it is, please push me over a dam.

    “Next to the dining room is a stunning, yet omelet-friendly kitchen.”…”Stunning, yet omelet-friendly”??? Okay…

    “Furnishings make quite a statement too. Reconditioned aircraft metal pieces including the fixture in the dining room which was fashioned from a jet engine combustion chamber and the dining chairs, remnants of a B-52 engine. The dining table is a recycled barn door.”…I scanned the ad copy a couple of times (no doubt taking a couple of minutes off my life span) and found no reference the furniture comes with the purchase…Am I missing something? Is this furniture so ugly the seller wants to leave it in situ and walk away?

    Oh, and the world was apparently changed forever when the block was used in a Mercedes-Benz commercial…

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