A Current Look at Third Place Horror Show
Better late than never…A reader, Jim Di Liberto, answer’s last Monday’s call for a current photo of the 45 Third Place. In addition to expressing his disgust at the overall design, he notes that, “The yellow support in the back looks terrifyingly weak.” Jim also asked for an update on the Strong Place Church. Anyone…
Better late than never…A reader, Jim Di Liberto, answer’s last Monday’s call for a current photo of the 45 Third Place. In addition to expressing his disgust at the overall design, he notes that, “The yellow support in the back looks terrifyingly weak.” Jim also asked for an update on the Strong Place Church. Anyone know anything?
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I just had a hilarious vision of the person who buys the unit with access to the yellow pole, “accidentally” tripping and tossing a can of neutral color paint onto the yellow pole. “Oops!”
I’d love to see an expansion made of all glass and steel, attached to a brownstone. But this is some sort-of kind-of attempt to match the color and blockiness of a brownstone with an icky yellow thing slapped on for modernity’s sake.
This is not a developer but 21 year old with bad ideas. He thought he was going to make some quick money and all he made was a big mess.
A developer who does an interesting design does get rewarded far greater than one who does a less nice design. Just look at the prices in DUMBO and in Williamsburg. It’s all well and fine to say you might not want to live in those nabes. But the prices they are getting there are extraordinary. And the reason in part is the high end designs many (not all, of course) developers are using and the better quality materials. Also isn’t there some merit in the reward of knowing you did a nice job? I don’t blame architects for the end result of this, or any other, job. I place the blame squarely on developers.
This building has provided a kind of negative inspiration to Brownstoners, rallying our heterogenous, diverse tastes, backgrounds and whatnot to a unified “EEEwwwww, digusting….” The building you love to hate. The living lesson in what NOT to do, where NEVER to go, no matter how much goddamn FAR you have. Yuch, phooey, gross.
Unfortunately, this is what the market seems to want. The question is not why do developers build this sort or crap, but why do people keep on buying the apartments. If developers thought that by building well designed buildings that they could get a higher price, they would build better stuff.
“I understand that people may feel entitled to their opinions on the built environment, but pointless, ignorant and dangerous speculation about the structural integrity of buildings does nothing for the quality of architecture in this city or the readers of Brownstoner.”
The perception of structural soundness is one factor of curb appeal. Even if something is structurally sound (as I’m sure this is), the perception of it being weak or shoddy is both shorthand for the shoddiness of this addition and fair game for any discussion of this place’s aesthetic qualities, impact on neighborhood or ultimate resale value.
Play ball.
–an architect in Brooklyn
Umm, seeing as I saw this thing get built (I live around the corner), I have no problem speculating about the structural integrety of this addition- I saw it go up and it is a steel lintel/CMU slap up job on top of junky existing foundations. Would love to see a set of signed and sealed structural drawings, but doubt they exist.
Hard to believe, but the photo makes the place look even better than in real life! The color of the extension and original brick clash horribly. It’s hard to believe someone would want to pay good money to live there. Have there been any buyers?