Renters Love Obama
Turns out that Obama escape clause in condo contracts might not be necessary, since the percentage of renters is going up (to 32.2 percent from 30.9 percent according to an Apartments.com survey). And renters, it seems, are planning to make Obama their president. “One week away from casting their ballots, renters surveyed revealed that nearly…
Turns out that Obama escape clause in condo contracts might not be necessary, since the percentage of renters is going up (to 32.2 percent from 30.9 percent according to an Apartments.com survey). And renters, it seems, are planning to make Obama their president. “One week away from casting their ballots, renters surveyed revealed that nearly 60 percent are backing Barack Obama for president and the top issue on their minds is the national economy,” reads a press release that landed in our inbox. “John McCain received 23 percent of renters’ votes followed by 9 percent who preferred not to answer the question and 6 percent who are undecided.”
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Bxgrl, there’s no way I would defend Robertson or Falwell either. Truth be told, I was hoping for an election contest between Clinton and Giuliani just so I wouldn’t have to listen to any religious nuttiness. Please don’t use Billy Graham’s words with Nixon to prove any points…Rev Wright’s buddy Louis Farrakhan has said much worse, more recently.
bxgrl,
here’s some reality. abortions are occurring at late stages. In fact it was one such abortion that occurred in Illinois that has made Obama famous. In this case, a late term abortion was performed, the child survived somehow and was delivered, alive. it only survived about an hour. it lead to a bill in the Illinois senate to provide care for babies that survive botched abortions. Obama voted no. Don’t believe me? look it up. If you dare. in addition, there are doctors out there, I believe in a clinic in Missouri for one, where late term abortions are performed, yes 8 months included. don’t believe me, look it up. Hey, I’m not some right wing fundamentalist here. I’m just giving you the facts. You obviously don’t like them.
next, mccain, never sat for 20 years in a church which dessiminated hatred against this nation. Obama did. he even had that reverend marry him. don’t believe me? look it up. just the facts.
as far a Bush’s role in this economy, there is clear print and video evidence of an attempt by the bush administration and republican senators to reign in the out of control mortgage lending practices of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. circa 2003 and 2005. McCain was one of those who sought tighter regulation (by the way, deregulation started in the 80’s and ran through the Clinton administration).
Efforts by republicans in the senate banking committee and assigned oversight regulators were met by a stiff lambasting by dems like Schumer, Dodd, Frank and Waters. members of the black congressional caucus all but cried racism as the reason for the bill in a time of abudant prosperity. don’t believe me? look it up. Bottom line, both parties are to blame. at least Bush tried, as he tried to bring up the Social Security debate but was quickly shot down. we will be having that conversation here in about 5-10 years as we approach the projected bankruptcy date of 2017. Don’t believe me? look it up.
I could go on, but what is the use. bxgrl has made up her mind and so be it. just remember this, you are entitled to your own opinion, just not your own facts.
pjsubway- so what? How many presidents counted Robertson and Falwell and the Grahams as their friends and “advisors?” I guess it’s ok to say the things they did because they are white? I don’t profess to know much about Black Liberation theology, but Rev. Wright’s anger at America is rhetorical. I find it less offensive than the ranting of evangelicals or fundamentalists who sit in church every Sunday denouncing “unbelievers” with great glee and praying we all go to hell.Google Falwell and Robertson for their comments the day after 9-11. You don’t get more anti American than that.
I also want to point out that unlike all of those guys- with the exception of Robertson (who spent his time in Korea serving liquor at the Officer’s club)- none served in the military. Wright is a decorated former Marine and Navy man who served as a cardiac medic to LBJ, the President. Seems to me he had very high-level security clearance to do that.
So riddle me this- how come supposedly America hating Wright serves his country and is angered by the way Black people have been treated in this country, and says so- gets raked over the coals while people are still making excuses for Billy graham long after he and Nixon had their lovely little taped discussion about Jews? Tell me how a man who spent years building his church and its programs that actually helped his community is being used as a battering ram against Obama, while all those big, glossy haired white preachers rake in piles of money for their big houses and mercedes and overwrought fancy “compounds” get a free pass from everyone.
give me a Reverend Wright any day over those useless hypocrites.
Bxgrl…while Obama might not have sat in Rev Wright’s church for all his life, he was there for a good twenty years. I don’t think McCain has ever attended services in any of the churches that you mention.
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WOW! bxgrl is my hero – very well said.
Why would renters want to vote for Obama?
simple answer: they think they will get something for nothing,”
Oh right- like the CEOs on wall street, and the mortgage holders and the homeowners who bought houses they couldn’t afford. right.
“He has catapulted himself to prominence in one of the most blatant power hungry trajectories in recent history. ”
And when McCain stupidly asked Sarah Palin if she wanted to be VP, she claimed she didn’t even blink. and don’t give me the “executive experience” argument. She has neither the education or intellect to run this country. Can we say “Power mad?”
“He then follow’s this up with an assault on the “evildoers” that are the businessmen and corporations of America, by increasing taxes.” Everyone knows what this leads to; less hiring, more firings, less growth, decreased production and decreased GDP. which leads to increased unemployment, decreased wages and a general bad economy.”
Ohhh…..you mean a bad economy like the one we have now courtesy of the Bush administration and deregulation? The economy like the one we have now where taxpayers have to BAIL OUT Wall st. and banks, while their CEOs still get to go to spas?
” I guess the far left missed that part of the debates where Biden finally admitted that they are both against Gay marriage. But who knew, there was so much obfuscation going on.”
Obfuscation in your mind- Obama has been upfront front about this issue- you just haven’t been paying attention.
“Obama has shown two instances of poor judgement in the past year. He voted against the surge, instead opting to vote for an ignomious retreat and defeat in Iraq. Then he vacillated on the aggression Putin showed towards Georgia. He basically tried to ascribe blame to both sides. While Georgia is clearly on our side and awaiting admittance into NATO.” The surge worked sort of and for many reasons. Maybe you enjoy sending young soldiers off to die in Iraq- where we should never have been- but some of us think that we need to get out and let the Iraqis have their country back. We shouldn’t have been there and we can’t afford it. should we run this country further into the ground militarily, financially and morally because Bush’s ego demands “Mission Accomplished.” If that’s defeat, we did it to ourselves. And there are many in government who say that Georgia is the country at fault.
“Obama is for abortion without restrictions, no questions asked. Does anyone who has seen a 3-dimensional sonogram of an 8 month old fetus in the womb, really have the audacity to say that it is anything less than a human being in there smiling at you?”
Oh please- give us a break and write the truth. No one, not even in law, allows you to abort an 8 month fetus. Jeez- where do you get this stuff?
” It’s not about denying women the right to determine what happens to their bodies,” Wrong- this is exactly what it is.
“Obama has been less than honest about his lifelong affiliations with “radical” ideologues like William Ayers, shady characters like Rezco and the influence of Reverend Wright whom we have all heard using anti-American, over the type rhetoric to play to his audience.”
“Lifelong?” You must have gotten this from the Sarah Palin How to be a Liar and Political Moron Workbook. Once again, half truths, lies and just plain ignoring facts will not win anyone to your side. Why don’t you try a little fact checking instead of swallowing all that pablum the GOP is shoving down you credulous gullet? As for Wright- there is quite a list of white reverends, whose support Mccain sought, that are well known for their anti-semitism and racism. Not to mention those who think we deserved to be attacked on 9-11 for supporting gay rights (Robertson and Falwell). Or didn’t you think that was anti-American?
“Obama’s plan for healthcare is not a viable option” Gee- according to many healthcare experts and economists it does a much better job than McCain’s idea.
“Obama lacks experience.” But unlike McCain/Palin he doesn’t lack vision, brains, understanding, capability or ethics.
Legion: it is absurd to call Obama a socialist. All he wants to do is roll back the radical Bush tax cuts, but that hardly qualifies as socialism. And to look at the economic policies of Bush, they clearly have not worked either – ironically, we are now closer to “socialism” than we ever have been with a practical nationalization of our economy. I’m not saying Obama is perfect, but he’s a hell of a lot better than the alternative. McCain bears no resemblance to the man he was pre-2000 – he’s totally sold out in the most cynical, disappointing way, and the devastating, reckless Palin pick is only the most glaring manifestation of that.
Why would renters want to vote for Obama?
simple answer: they think they will get something for nothing, which is pretty much what is driving the “spread the wealth” campaign that Obama is waging.
Read my lips; Socialism does not work. It’s been tried time and again, it does not work.
Why?
Because socialism is based on the idea of striving towards mediocrity. It penalizes exceptionalism and rewards sloth. Why should I attempt to better my lot if it will only go towards that moron down the street belching on his back deck all day? Multiply that by 300 million and you begin to see why the USSR collapsed under it’s own weight.
Why I won’t vote for Obama:
1. He’s a lawyer. lawyers don’t lead, they strategize for gain and create nothing.
2. He has catapulted himself to prominence in one of the most blatant power hungry trajectories in recent history. He won the Illinois Senate seat because the Republican in the lead dropped out (some kind of sex scandal, ie; he was caught having sex). Obama then decided to go for broke after 143 days in the Senate, and run for the Presidency. Having no great legislative record to speak of.
3. Obama has stated that he is for redefining the role of the constituion in our lives. Listen to the recently released 2001 interview in which he basically states that the constitution does not do enough to define what the government is supposed to give you. Hey, last I checked, the less government in my life the better and the constitution was meant to define and lay out the foundations of our liberty not our neediness . Then again, I’m not looking for a sugar daddy government. Many are.
4. Obama’s great economic plan is basically to give those that don’t pay taxes some kind of refund, amounting to about 500 -1,000 dollars (despite the fact that Bush’s 1200 dollar giveaway did nothing for the economy). He then follow’s this up with an assault on the “evildoers” that are the businessmen and corporations of America, by increasing taxes. Everyone knows what this leads to; less hiring, more firings, less growth, decreased production and decreased GDP. which leads to increased unemployment, decreased wages and a general bad economy. a la Carter 1978.
5. Obama has played every side of every issue with the skill of a three card monty dealer. I guess the far left missed that part of the debates where Biden finally admitted that they are both against Gay marriage. But who knew, there was so much obfuscation going on.
6.Obama has shown two instances of poor judgement in the past year. He voted against the surge, instead opting to vote for an ignomious retreat and defeat in Iraq. Then he vacillated on the aggression Putin showed towards Georgia. He basically tried to ascribe blame to both sides. While Georgia is clearly on our side and awaiting admittance into NATO.
7.Obama is for abortion without restrictions, no questions asked. Does anyone who has seen a 3-dimensional sonogram of an 8 month old fetus in the womb, really have the audacity to say that it is anything less than a human being in there smiling at you? this is a harsh but sober reality. As science further elucidates the life and development of the fetus, it becomes more and more apparent that the issue of abortion will one day be seen in the same light as torture or slavery. It’s not about denying women the right to determine what happens to their bodies, it is about coming to terms with what is being done to the living being inside and having a responsible debate about the implications of terminating that life.
8.Obama has been less than honest about his lifelong affiliations with “radical” ideologues like William Ayers, shady characters like Rezco and the influence of Reverend Wright whom we have all heard using anti-american, over the type rhetoric to play to his audience. I understand the need to fill the seats at the church, but whatever happened to good old faith in God?
9.Obama’s plan for healthcare is not a viable option; it seeks to mandate medical coverage for all at huge taxpayer expense and major bureaucratic growth of the government. Now we’ve all seen how the government (dems and repubs) have handled natural disaster, corporate/wall street oversight and the inevitable bankruptcy of social security. What makes us think that handing over the 2 Trillion a year healthcare industry to government oversight will fare any better. No, the private sector is the answer.
10.Obama lacks experience. Perhaps in 4 or 8 years.
I love how people throw around the word “socialism” like they think Trotsky willl crawl out of the grave and make us all pray at Lenin’s grave. (Full disclosure: Trotsky is known as the Bronx Boy who made good. for those of you who subscribe to the McCain/Palin campaign technique, I suppose I have not “outed” myself as a fellow born in the Bronxite and obviously an enemy of America. You betcha!)
McCain has loved the label of Maverick far more than he loves living it. A glance at the changes he has made to pander to the conservative right, and his complete lack of ethics in how he runs his campaign has sent many moderate and even conservative republicans over to Obama. If that doesn’t tell you something I can’t think what does.
I love biff for having the guts to say he leans toward socialism. Something else the GOP has twisted out of recognition- now anything that is for the greater good of the country is labelled “socialism.” Next thing you know, biff and i will be accused of marching in Red Square, burning our flag.
“Now, I don’t believe for a minute your typical hate spewing liberal has what it takes to pacify any part of this nation where people refuse to participate in their schemes – but they will try.” I love when poley comments. It’s difficult to find someone so misguided and so truly incompetent at rational thought. (the what could rant and rave, but there was actual thinking in there) It’s obvious poley hasn’t been keeping up with the hate spewing. Unfortunately it’s well documented that it is coming from the right. the same right that has been trying to foist the religious fundamentalist agenda on the rest of us. want to talk about imposing social control? take a look at the pro-life movement in all its glory and you’ll see the beginnings of social control the likes of which you find in life under the Taliban.
and this topic, how renters will vote for Obama, gets my “stupid topic of the year” award. We’ll vote for who we think will do the best job for our country. yes, shock! renters care about things like that as opposed to deciding everything based on our lease.