Open House Picks: Houses
Carroll Gardens 98 3rd Place Brown Harris Stevens Sunday 2:30-4:30 $2,450,000 GMAP P*Shark Park Slope 360A 5th Street Warren Lewis Sunday 2:30-4:30 $1,875,000 GMAP P*Shark Bedford Stuyvesant 111 Clifton Place Corcoran Sunday 12-1 $1,395,000 GMAP P*Shark Kensington 301 Caton Avenue Brooklyn Properties Sunday 1-3 $889,000 GMAP P*Shark Tune in tomorrow morning for Open House Picks:…
Carroll Gardens
98 3rd Place
Brown Harris Stevens
Sunday 2:30-4:30
$2,450,000
GMAP P*Shark
Park Slope
360A 5th Street
Warren Lewis
Sunday 2:30-4:30
$1,875,000
GMAP P*Shark
Bedford Stuyvesant
111 Clifton Place
Corcoran
Sunday 12-1
$1,395,000
GMAP P*Shark
Kensington
301 Caton Avenue
Brooklyn Properties
Sunday 1-3
$889,000
GMAP P*Shark
Tune in tomorrow morning for Open House Picks: Apartments
I don’t think the snobbiness in PS is connected to wealth. There is plenty of wealth in fringe neighborhoods too. What PS has that those other neighborhoods don’t is an elitist attitude, very well entrenched. And sure, why not? The people in PS feel proud to be in such a desireable neighborhood that is getting nationwide attention. They are members of a special clique, a club, and they’re relishing it.
Which is okay. But please, at least admit it. The thing that reflects so badly on Park Slopers is the fact they believe themselves superior as parents and generally superior over all the other people in Brooklyn, but they get all defensive and nasty when they’re called out on it. As a kid I used to live in a community that was very elitist and prideful, but all the smart, cool people admitted it and joked about it. What Park Slopers never do is self-reflection or have any humor about their situation. They take themselves and their neighborhood very very seriously. Again, which is really unappealing. It’s a sure way to get picked on. Human nature.
Agreed Ditmas is nice, but why is Ditmas always being pushed as more affordable than brownstones? Ditmas houses need tons and tons of work. We went to see some, when we were looking for a house and the conditions were dismal in those houses. They need all new siding, new insulation in the walls, total gut renovations of basements, total gut renovations of kitchens, new roof, new mechanicals. Anybody know how much that costs? Do NOT underestimate the importance of present condition, when searching for a house. Or that’s where all your money will go, for years and years. No vacations, no extra goodies. Just the house. They’re very expensive to heat, too. I love woodframe houses, and always defend them. But please don’t tell people they’ll save a lot of money by buying one! That’s so wrong.
This is not PS bashing, but simply a fact. As the above poster states, if you don’t have big bucks and you want a house, you need SEVERAL rentals. So what are these people and their kids living in? Basically a two bedroom apartment?
Move to Ditmas Park and actually LIVE in a house for that money. It’s true – it’s what PS used to be and the schools are pretty good and getting better all the time (just like PS used to be…). Get your hands dirty and build a community.
This is not PS bashing, but simply a fact. As the above poster states, if you don’t have big bucks and you want a house, you need SEVERAL renals. So what are these people and their kids living in? Basically a two bedroom apartment?
Move to Ditmas Park and actually LIVE in a house for that money. It’s true – it’s what PS used to be and the schools are pretty good and getting better all the time (just like PS used to be…). Get your hands dirty and build a community.
There are so many more nannies on the UWS or UES of Manhattan, its no comparison. Park Slope has more SAHM.
The PS bashing is also kind of weirdly inconsistent: PS is otoh snobby/wealthy and otoh hippie/crunchy. I’m about to move to PS from the UWS and I expect it will be like any other neighborhood — mix of good and bad people.
So wait, being “moneyed”, or being able to afford a Park Slope house at today’s prices, makes one inherently inferior and less moral than someone who cannot afford it? And having money automatically = being snooty? Grow up people.
Why does everyone assume that everyone in PS is snooty and wealthy? I have friends who bought as recently as 2000 and were able to buy a pretty mint 4-story townhouse in Center Slope at that time for just under $1million (they live in duplex and have 2 rentals). There are lots of families here who just were lucky enough to buy before prices really accelerated, and they actually have relatively modest incomes (by Manhattan/Wall St standards). The PS food coop, whatever its detractors say, is incredibly diverse demographically, and there are lots of mixed race families here. I think it’s all the new folks who are buying at the high prices who are indeed much more moneyed than the older buyers – but really, folks in PS are a very varied lot. I suspect much of the PS bashing is simply people who have not spend much time here.
Re: state of the market – Brown Harris Stevens Fall-Winter 07 report just came in NY Times today, and pointed out that average townhouse prices in brownstone Bklyn, per square foot, went down significantly from 3Q06 ($709/sf) to 1Q07 ($568/sf). 2-bedroom apts went down in price by 4% in the past year (interestingly, smaller apts kept their value better, as testified by recent NYT article too – no word in BHS report how 3BR’s did). A word of warning to those over-aggressive brokers – winter is coming (despite the recent warm weather). And as for that Warren Lewis PS house, they are asking over 833/sf – well over the average – it really is nuts. According to the BHS report, $1.3 would be the price at the average BHS cites. Granted, inventory is low which is driving up prices – but that much?!? Insane…