Open House Picks
Park Slope 398 Bergen Street FKG Real Estate Sunday 1-3 $1,875,000 GMAP P*Shark Park Slope 99 St. Marks Place Aguayo & Huebener Sunday 1-3 $1,595,000 GMAP P*Shark Bedford Stuyvesant 119 Bainbridge Street Brooklyn Properties Sunday 12-2 $1,300,000 GMAP P*Shark Crown Heights 1190 Dean Street Brown Harris Stevens Sunday 12-1:30 $985,000 GMAP P*Shark
Park Slope
398 Bergen Street
FKG Real Estate
Sunday 1-3
$1,875,000
GMAP P*Shark
Park Slope
99 St. Marks Place
Aguayo & Huebener
Sunday 1-3
$1,595,000
GMAP P*Shark
Bedford Stuyvesant
119 Bainbridge Street
Brooklyn Properties
Sunday 12-2
$1,300,000
GMAP P*Shark
Crown Heights
1190 Dean Street
Brown Harris Stevens
Sunday 12-1:30
$985,000
GMAP P*Shark
I agree that Bed Stuy today (well, most of it) isn’t as bad as Park Slope thirty years ago. But let’s say it’s as bad as Park Slope was twenty years ago — I think if you look at the crime stats, that’s probably close to accurate. No one was paying a million dollars (adjusted for inflation) for Park Slope brownstones twenty years ago. And twenty years ago, coincidentally, Park Slope real estate was on the verge of a tumble that sent prices down 40% in real terms over the next six years. Are you ready to have that Crown Heights townhouse you bought for $1 million be worth $600K five years from now? I don’t think too many people are, no matter how much they love the neighborhood.
As for the supposed bashing of the Park Slope pioneers referred to by 7:43, where is it? No one on this thread has said anything bad about the people who bought in Park Slope in the 1970s, and I don’t remember any attacks on them in recent threads, either. Where is this criticism that 7:43 is reacting so strongly to?
But it’s not Park Slope 30 years ago, 7:40. That is a vast huge exaggeration. Ask someone who actually lived in Park Slope 30 years ago. Park Slope was way worse than Bed Stuy or Crown Heights is now. Additionally, the NYC economny in general is better than it was during the time Park Slope was so blighted. So the circumstances NOW (not being the 70’s) would indicate there is opportunity for advancement to happen much more quickly. Like the huge amount of focus the Mayor has put on developing Brooklyn. They literally want Brooklyn to be another Manhattan. That kind of thinking was SO not going on in the 70’s.
Also, 7:36 the whole point was to say Park Slopers should appreciate the pioneers in fringe brownstone neighborhoods now, even if they themselves don’t “get it” and couldn’t be risk-takers themselves. Instead, they are judgemental and nasty towards the very types of people who improved Park Slope so much back in the day. See the irony?
You hit the nail on the head, 7:06.
It isn’t that buying in these neighborhoods is a bad idea. It’s that buying them at these prices is a bad idea.
The last few posters have functional reading problems and have inferred that people are suggesting that no one move to these areas at all.
That’s not the issue. The issue is the exhorbitant prices for these homes in neighborhoods that have literally just begun the gentrification process.
People in Park Slope now pay 2 million dollars…sometimes 3 to live in a nearly perfect urban oasis.
You are paying 1 million dollars to live in what was Park Slope 30 years ago.
Do you see why you might be in trouble?
Yes, 7:36pm, because even if you rent a small apartment in Park Slope you are living in a neighborhood that has good quality of life, with good amenities, that even as it gets more costly is still far less expensive than Manhattan. Not everyone is cut out to go live in the ghetto and strive to make improvements, make the schools better, bring in amenities if not open the restaurants and stores yourself so the community would have those resources. Could you have done it?
The people who bought brownstones in the 1970s in Park Slope are now sitting on homes worth $2 million +. Do they really need us to thank them, too?
“6:04 Because I loved the house! Just had to have it!”
Yes, that’s exactly the reason the pioneers of Park Slope bought their houses. They had no reason at all to believe Park Slope would become a fabulous high priced neighborhood. Park Slope was quite literally a ghetto. Don’t say it wasn’t. I know someone who grew up in Park Slope, who says it was. However, 7:17 is correct, nobody thinks like that anymore in NYC. Nobody will buy a house without thinking about flipping for a profit. Kind of soul-less and boring. Like a community of accountants. Might be a sign it’s time to leave the city.
monstrose morris = brower park = crown heights proud
Same long-winded style, same “know it all” lecturing posts.
I’m with Montrose. People who believe in Brooklyn and invest not only in real estate but in making their neighborhoods better places are going to do just fine in the long run. That means joining the community board, getting involved with public schools, volunteering, having a little civic involvement. Crown Heights has some of the finest victorian architecture in the city. It also has more than its share of social problems, but these are not intractable, and things have been changing for the better for a long time now. !977 is a long time ago. !991 is a long time ago. If you come back to brooklyn in a decade, you will see it vastly improved.