Open House Picks: Townhouses
Clinton Hill 48 Clifton Place Brown Harris Stevens Sunday 12-2 $1,485,000 GMAP P*Shark Clinton Hill 239 St. James Place Brooklyn Properties Sunday 2:30-4 $1,350,000 GMAP P*Shark South Slope 212 16th Street Douglas Elliman Sunday 12-2 $1,100,000 GMAP P*Shark Bedford Stuyvesant 282A Gates Avenue Corcoran Sunday 12-2 $799,000 GMAP P*Shark
Clinton Hill
48 Clifton Place
Brown Harris Stevens
Sunday 12-2
$1,485,000
GMAP P*Shark
Clinton Hill
239 St. James Place
Brooklyn Properties
Sunday 2:30-4
$1,350,000
GMAP P*Shark
South Slope
212 16th Street
Douglas Elliman
Sunday 12-2
$1,100,000
GMAP P*Shark
Bedford Stuyvesant
282A Gates Avenue
Corcoran
Sunday 12-2
$799,000
GMAP P*Shark
What planet are some of you guys from? Yes, Grand and Clifton Place is a bit menacing, but it’s actually gotten substantially better over the years.
There is a bad vibe, but to hear some describe it you would think it’s an open-air drug market with gun-toting troublemakers everywhere. It’s not. I doubt any of the fearmongers posting here regularly even walk around the area.
“We all know who they are and which houses they are in!”
You seem emotionally disturbed — maybe you need professional help or something better to do with your time.
How could you continue to live on this street for 30 years and be so unhappy?
Maybe New Jersey would suit you better . . . or a rest home.
Doesn’t HBO’s Entourage star Adrian Grenier live two blocks away from this corner?
I’ve heard the person who created and runs this website lives right there as well.
I lived on Clifton Place for almost 30 years, and I can tell you this block has improved tremendously. That is because there were a group of caring individuals that lived on the block. There are a group of new owners now, and their agenda is different from the people before. The older group were trying to improve the block by trying to get rid of the unsavory characters that hung out in the street. Every avenue was tried including going to the 88th precinct through multiple captains, the Brooklyn district attorney and local do nothing politicians. Nothing was ever done and even though things improved but the hoodlum from our block remains. The newer people especially the so called president of the block association is only concern with having block parties and will not acknowledge any problems. Until the people in this block wake up, the problems on Clifton Place will not go away, that is until the families that are involved in the illegal drug trade move out. We all know who they are and which houses they are in!
I am just sick of people who don’t know the real story about things going on these blogs and acting as if they do. And probably these are people who have some sort of agenda anyway for better or worse. If you read the Park Slope Paper’s crime blotter you will be shocked at how dangerous Park Slope really is…or is it? I’ve never heard of anybody I know getting mugged, or heard of drive by shootings in Fort Greene, Prospect Heights, Clinton Hill. I actually do know somebody who was mugged in midtown last week though. Okay, maybe muggings happen everywhere. But are people really scared of drive by shootings in Brooklyn? No. But on here it’s ridiculous. And slanderous about entire neighborhoods.
I suppose it depends who you talk to, and how much they are aware of their surroundings. There are multiple people above acknowledging that the problem exists, and there are many local residents who do care deeply, and have worked over many years to combat it. And yes, these efforts have contributed to the improvement so far, though many may be unaware of that history. But as with Grand and Putnam, it’s like plowing water; exert pressure on one area, and it moves around the corner (to Cambridge), or across the street, and eventually comes back. In the end, increasing real estate values may finally resolve the problem. Maybe the Corcoran guy was right, just premature. We’ll see. Meanwhile, if there’s really a good bagel store going into the bodega space, halleluljah.
I guess it’s much better to rant and rave on brownstoner than to try to do anything about a problem that obviously concerns you deeply. I know many people on this block and I’ve never heard them complain about this stuff. I do hear people on FG Park complaining about all sorts of goings on their block (noise, trash, drugs, holdups), but there was nothing but cheerleading Washington Park on this site about the houses on that stretch. Whatever. It’s a big city. I find more strange people on this blog than in real life to be honest.
No problem at all, until you get threatened for contacting the police (the word gets out very quickly); or until you speak up at Precinct meetings for years and the 88th simply denies there’s a problem on Clifton Place (no complaints make for better stats, remember?); or until you get caught in the crossfire; or until, god forbid, you want to sleep at 1AM while the SUVs are parked outside with stereos blasting on summer nights to advertise the drug trade – and the 88th calls this a “quality of life issue” and won’t even send a car around, as they’re so busy elsewhere and Clifton Place has been a fait accompli for over 30 years, in spite of all the community action undertaken. Forgive me for asking, but do you have NO problem with the notion of your kid being “actually friends with all the drug dealers”? If not, you just might be the buyer that house is waiting for. I hope I just failed to appreciate your sarcasm…
Maybe it’s all those affluent kids at that expensive Pratt Institute who live in the neighborhood supporting the local trade.
Go down to Atlantic and Grand Ave . . . that’s a real problem.