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When you want to convert a house that has been used and classified by the city as a Single Room Occupance (SRO) dwelling, you have to go through a cumbersome process with the Department of Housing Preservation and Development (HPD) designed to protect the rights of SRO residents. Unfortunately, as we found out first hand when we converted our house, despite its presumably good intentions, the process is marred by incompetent people and ridiculous bureaucratic hurdles.

HPD’s basic goal is to make sure that a tenant who’s been paying a couple of hundred bucks a month for a room for the last ten or twenty years isn’t booted out in the street. As the owner, you have to fill out a lengthy questionnaire with all the current and former residents’ names and known addresses (even if the house is empty, as ours was when we bought it). Then HPD is supposed to make an effort to contact all these people to make sure they weren’t forced out against their will. In our case, after this mail campaign came up clean, we were told over the phone that everything was fine and we should be getting our Certificate of No Harassment (CNH) within the week. When we called back three weeks later, we found out that HPD had decided to send someone out on foot to try to talk to all the former tenants, thus adding another month to the timeline. At some point in the process, an HPD inspector has to come inspect your house to make sure there are no signs of tenants still living there; at the time (back in late 2004), there was only one inspector for the five boroughs!

The entire process took about four months in our case, but we had the benefit of a friend in city government periodically lobbing in calls to HPD on our behalf. A neighbor of ours in Clinton Hill has not been so lucky. An existing homeowner, he and a partner purchased an SRO in the area in late 2005 and applied to HPD’s SRO unit for a Certificate of No Harassment early in 2006. It was received as of February 15th and they were told by the office it normally takes five to seven months. There was, at the time, one tenant in the building, who has since vacated. After about eight months, he called and was told it was in the “final stages” of the process, was with the attorneys, and should be finished in 30 to 60 days.

After about 75 days, he called again and was told it was in the “final stages” of the process, was with the attorneys, and should be finished in 30 to 60 days. A supervisor told him that it was under investigation and there was nothing further she could say. It’s now been exactly a year, and they are unable to get construction permits due to the delay. Instead, they pay about $8,000 per month in carrying costs and bear the risk of the market going down.

We understand that city wants to make sure that poor people aren’t just kicked to the curb by greedy landlords, but it is not doing an adequate job of balancing the interests of the property owners, who in most cases are not deep-pocketed developers but mom-and-pops trying either to create a home for themselves or to fix up a small rental property. In our case, the people HPD were supposedly watching out for were mostly drug dealers and thugs, which perhaps explains why they ultimately weren’t able to track any of them down. To throw up such impediments to upgrading the housing stock (in most cases, these buildings are some of the most run-down on the block) seems crazy. As we suggested when we first wrote about this on our reno blog, HPD should drastically increase the CNH application fee and staff up so that it can do a responsible job of processing the applications in a timely manner.
Certificate on No Harassment, Finally! [Brownstoner Reno Blog]


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  1. When Brownstoner and similar rich homeowners start to lobby for the elimination of zoning laws, I’ll have some sympathy.

    Until then, enjoy your townhouse!

    And one of the prior posters was right – this buyer was a fool to purchase the property, and the bank was foolish to give him a loan for the purchase price. There is no way he or the bank would be able to sell the property now. Sucks for him!

  2. I don’t care if you increase the staff 100 fold at some of these agencies, it is not going to make it faster. Have you seen some of these places? There are two reasons you get an admin. job with the city: PENSIONS & BENEFITS – not for the rewarding work environment. Think about it; what is the advantage to the city if it takes 2 days for your little permit or 6 months – none.

  3. maybe things have changed…we applied two months ago and hpd came within six weeks…they said that DOB has to come now and inspect, too…is that the norm for a certificate of nonharassment? do they work together now? is there a comprehensive list somewhere of what DOB considers violations?

  4. That’s the real question, Jimmy legs. But the Bloomberg administration has a history of doing the forest before they figured out what the trees are.They will go for the big showy stuff (like Jet stadiums and Nets Arenas) but neglect the basic administration of even the most important agencies. Another example: the tremendous cutback in Fire Marshals at a time when suspicious are rising. I can’t remember the exact numbers but it is on the order of a couple of hundred to less than 50. That’s typical for this administration. Don’t forget- he is a financial genius and businessman but not a civic one.

  5. the laws are messed up, but if they had proper staffing and enforcement at least things would move at a reasonable pace. it seems odd the city wouldn’t shore up all the real estate-related agencies, considering the demand in a city like this.

  6. Mr. B…improving the system in nyc…come on…every agency in the city is ridiculous in their inefficiencies…anyone buying property in nyc should understand this…i’m not unsympathetic, i just think the purchase price SHOULD/WILL reflect this inefficiency.

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