House of the Day: 1232 Dean Street
This four-story house at 1232 Dean Street in Crown Heights just hit the market and, like so many houses in the area, has some killer architectural details. (In this case, it’s the wood paneling and built-ins that really impress.) Hopefully for the seller, this place will attract more interest than the next-door neighbor at 1230…
This four-story house at 1232 Dean Street in Crown Heights just hit the market and, like so many houses in the area, has some killer architectural details. (In this case, it’s the wood paneling and built-ins that really impress.) Hopefully for the seller, this place will attract more interest than the next-door neighbor at 1230 Dean Street, which we featured a year ago and is still on the market for $1,250,000. While we suspect there will be plenty of people who dig the house, we suspect that the price tag of $999,000 for a house in this neighborhood may be a tough sell in this economic environment.
1232 Dean Street [Halstead] GMAP P*Shark
Nice to see you back bxgrl.
Hey biff- just been busy and going through a lot of personal stuff. Hoping the New Year will be better (not sure how, just became unemployed.)
Actually I missed brownstoner and everyone.so when’s the next party??
When I moved here, I certainly didn’t see myself as a “gentrifyer” (no money, renter) but I am sure to some in the neighborhood any white person was a symbol of that. We do need an honest discussion of why gentrification engenders so much anger- and that means understanding the meaning of “home” and “neighborhood.” I’ve always felt the MREB made everything in terms of money- if you could afford it, it was yours. There was a real coldheartedness that went along with it, and a real lack of concern for others.
I can’t count how many times posters on brownstoner said if you couldn’t afford your neighborhood you should just move. there is a difference between not being able to afford a neighborhood you want to move into, and being forced out of your home for many years. I assume much of What’s anger comes from the highhanded treatment of longtime residents in poor and working class neighborhoods- and I am not trying to speak for him.
But until there is an open and honest discussion about the impact of gentrification, and the feeling the wealthy are running roughshod over the rest of us, I think you can expect nothing to change.
bxgrl, where on earth have you been? people have been asking about you. You have to come around here more often. Regarding the What taking on MM; if that doesn’t show poor judgement, I don’t know what does. Might as well attack motherhood and apple pies at this point.
wasder, thanks. I think cobblehiller’s a very good person at heart who supports and cares about her community immensely, and has done it for a long time. We can disagree on things, but it shouldn’t have gotten personal. I would rather use my negative energy on my real enemies 🙂
The real estate run up (i.e Mutant Real Estate Bubble) that many historically affordable neighborhoods (BS, CH etc) experienced in the last few years, helped create the situation that is playing out today. True, some people overextended themselves however, they are not responsible for exponential price increases that has destroyed the affordability of their working class neighborhood. People are losing their homes in your neighborhood. Why?
I am not implying that there is any willful malevolence buying in an ‘up and coming ‘ neighborhood, but it is disingenuous to think there are no ill effects.
gosh- I missed all the fun. Although the idea of Montrose sitting around listening to the Andy Williams boxed set is a bit frightening.
That house is so amazing- bayridgegirl, c’mon down! I’ve lived around the corner from there since 2003. I love the neighborhood- people are friendly, kind to cats (you will appreciate that too, sam) and while CHN has its problems, it’s far, far, far from the hellhole the What wants everyone to think it is.
That said, there should be dialogue about gentrification and the impact on poorer neighborhoods. I’ve kidded my landlord that its their fault whites have come to crown heights- when I moved here there were very few. But at no time did I ever get the hostility and anger. It may be a societal and community feeling, but not a personal one. And I think that poorer neighborhoods do see some benefits from gentrification- better stores, for instance.
It’s an unfortunate fact that neighborhoods like Crown Heights North didn’t get the attention they deserved until whites began buying into the neighborhood. Despite all the homeowners, all the political work, all the beautiful architecture- CHN was thought of as just another poor, crime-ridden neighborhood. Yet the accomplishments of CHNA are really a testament to the people who have lived here for years. They are the backbone of Crown Heights and the truth of it is, in most poor neighborhoods you hear only about the crime, the poverty, the bad stuff. But in all of these neighborhoods you will always find a core of hardworking, motivated, community minded people who put their resources and strengths together to try to improve their neighborhoods. They never get recognized, sadly for all of us.
Whuh- If the What improved his communication skills, he’d be better able to make his point. Instead he distracts everyone with insults and rants. It’s just sad for him that he tried to take on Montrose. Very sad.
Biff—nice touch at the end there. I would love to see raprochement between you and cobblehiller on account of the fact that I like you both immensely.
Yeah, cobblehiller, he might be in a meeting. But still, to lob that in there and then skedaddle is pretty lame.
“What would you do about it oh great thinker?”
wasder, The What and Whuh would build moats and walls around traditional white, black and asian neighborhoods. I’m not naive to believe there are no issues associated with integration, but let’s recognize the positives and work on the tough issues so everybody can ultimately live together as one community while still appreciating and cherishing cultural and ethnic differences.
“Some see it as a race thing, I think it’s more of a class issue myself.”
cobblehiller, I agree with much of what you said. I believe DIBS has put his money where his mouth is by not only moving to Bed Stuy, but, in my view, doing quite a bit to try to improve the neighborhood. I’m sure much more, in fact, than those who criticize him. If Whuh considers this “interloping”, I think that’s very unfortunate. It’s not a race issue. How many artists in SoHo, East Village, DUMBO, etc. who are white were driven out of those and many other neighborhoods. I’ve always advocated affordable housing (and other initiatives aimed at trying not to displace people from their homes and neighborhoods) and have heavily criticized developers who didn’t come through on promises of such.
I like your idea of moving from cherry bombs to sparklers and apologize for hurtful things I’ve said to you in the heat of discussion.