House of the Day: 540 16th Street
This charming Arts and Crafts house at 540 16th Street in Windsor Terrace started out as a FSBO asking $1,550,000 before it moved to a small, local broker and got a new price tag of $1,499,999. Now Brooklyn Properties has the listing and is offering the one-family house for $1,350,000. It’s a charmer, to be…
This charming Arts and Crafts house at 540 16th Street in Windsor Terrace started out as a FSBO asking $1,550,000 before it moved to a small, local broker and got a new price tag of $1,499,999. Now Brooklyn Properties has the listing and is offering the one-family house for $1,350,000. It’s a charmer, to be sure (kitchen and bathrooms aside). Think the new asking price is reasonable?
540 16th Street [Brooklyn Properties] GMAP P*Shark
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Is PS really that much better that it is worth paying double a house in WT? I mean, can’t bars and restaurants open up in WT?
If a big bird picked up my Clinton Hill brownstone and put it Manhattan… I would sell it, take the cash and move back to FG or CH. I like PS but if a large bird dropped my house in PS, again, I’d be grateful for the slight uptick, cash out and move back to where I actually want to live.
There will be plenty of people that feel this way about WT.
Park Slope is just a more a beautiful neighborhood than Windsor Terrace. It is more affluent and it has better subway access. There is nothing wrong with Windsor Terace it just does not have the beauty and sophistication of Park Slope.
Here’s my personal take on your list:
-Number and variety of restaurants and bars. Sometimes it is not just about absolute quality but the ability to have 10 different kinds of cuisine in easy distance
Point conceded, although the ratio of bad restaurants in PS is as high as anywhere I’ve ever lived. The actual number of decent restaurants in PS is fairly low. WT dining sucks (thank goodness for delivery).
– Proximity to park
PS not better than WT
– Proximity to transportation / Manhattan
PS worse than WT (one extra subway stop to Manhattan vs most of WT being closer walk to the actual stop)
– Number and variety of other services (hardware, drug stores, grocery/delis, watch repair, shoe repair, coffee shops, kids classes, yoga/pilates/gyms, etc)
PS marginally better than WT. WT & PS have drug store, deli, shoe repair, coffee shop. Kid classes, yoga, are in nearby SouthSlope. Gym situation much better in PS. Co-op in PS. Butcher in WT. Fish store in PS. Movie theater in WT. Grocery store in WT (not in some parts of PS).
– Quality of schools
PS Overcrowded.
– Quantity and quality of architecture
Slight advantage PS
– Lots of tree lines, pretty streets
Advantage WT. Seriously. Have you been to Sherman, Windsor, and 16th st?
– probably other things I am not even thinking of
People in PS say this a lot.
Look, PS is nice. Sounds like you live there and like it. You should. There are other great things about other hoods too. I think folks on this board tend to downgrade areas that they don’t know anything about.
“When we looked in WT years ago, it was still full of the old single earner households(teachers, fire/police, city workers, etc.) who worked regular hours and had a spouse at home during the day with the kids.”
Luckily those folks have decided to sell their places for $1.5 million or more and made the area uninhabitable by teachers, fire/police, city workers, etc.
They’re in Jersey and Long Island now… commuting. Oh, I guess I made that point already. 🙂
MR — WT is pleasant but for a working couple w/ or w/o kids, the inability to pick things up on the way home from the subway (whatever it is you want), at any time, is a quality of life issue. There just isn’t enough time in the day. When we looked in WT years ago, it was still full of the old single earner households(teachers, fire/police, city workers, etc.) who worked regular hours and had a spouse at home during the day with the kids. Normal in that fifties way. It just couldn’t work for us.
Why does everything have to be a comparison of who’s got more? It’s gotta be obvious each area appeals to residents for its own reasons so why make it a face off contest between one neighborhood or another? It’s insulting to people who actually like Windsor Terrace & Prospect Heights. Different strokes for different folks.
PS has a combo of elements — none of which alone makes it THAT much better than PH or WT but taken together add up. In my opinion they are:
– Number and variety of restaurants and bars. Sometimes it is not just about absolute quality but the ability to have 10 different kinds of cuisine in easy distance.
– Proximity to park
– Proximity to transportation / Manhattan
– Number and variety of other services (hardware, drug stores, grocery/delis, watch repair, shoe repair, coffee shops, kids classes, yoga/pilates/gyms, etc)
– Quality of schools
– Quantity and quality of architecture
– Lots of tree lines, pretty streets
– probably other things I am not even thinking of
It’s not that PS is hugely better in every one of these areas but being a little better many of them makes it potentially a better neighborhood overall.
That said, for any individual, depending on whether these things matter in your personal life you either consider PS better or not.