House of the Day: 351 Pacific Street
This 20-footer in Boerum Hill should spark a lot of interest at $2,095,000, we suspect, unless Boerum Hill has lost its hotness and someone forgot to tell us. The house has lots of old deets (including five marble fireplaces and two pier mirrors). There are some slightly non-traditional touches that work quite nicely, too, namely…
This 20-footer in Boerum Hill should spark a lot of interest at $2,095,000, we suspect, unless Boerum Hill has lost its hotness and someone forgot to tell us. The house has lots of old deets (including five marble fireplaces and two pier mirrors). There are some slightly non-traditional touches that work quite nicely, too, namely the skylight and splash of exposed brick in the lofty top-floor studio space. As for the price, it falls right between the $2.27 million that 90 Dean Street (one block west) sold for in November and the $1.965 million that 208 Dean Street (one block east) sold for in January. The first open house will be on Sunday from 12 to 2. Should be a crowded one.
351 Pacific Street [Corcoran] GMAP P*Shark
all downtown bk changed when yuppie, dog-runcentric, $10 arrabica people like you guys arrived. escape manhattan? nah, it just followed you here a decade later. now you are bitching b/c others want in? where was the concern about change when you priced out the puerto ricans? cars looking for parking? OH MY GOD, THE WORLD IS TRULY ENDING…………
Yes, location, location et al. is a mantra we all know and love. Here, however, all that is needed is for one person to mention how close (in blocks, mileage, etc.) the house is to AY and everyone can get the picture. We don’t need to have the same 50-post debate (with lots of unnecessary invective, no less) about the whole project every time. Everyone who reads Brownstoner regularly knows what AY is, and has their own views about it and presumably what that will mean for any particular property. Nothing new comes of rehashing it all again just to inform a discussion of a single house. I just don’t want to wade through a huge pissing match every time just to get a few choice insights about the house.
how can you not talk about AY when talking about a house – isn’t the biggest real estate mantra “location, location, location”
Mr. B,
If you have somehow managed to read this far down a thread, I would like to make a modest proposal. Is it possible to set up a separate sidebar discussion on AY so that those on both sides who look for every opportunity to debate AY’s merits and drawbacks on this site can just have at it ad infinitum. That way, if you post a story on a nearby house, the first person who sees fit to mention that the house is near AY, you can just insert a link to the AY sidebar discussion, and there will be no need to replay the debate on every thread relating to a nearby house.
And, hey, you AY debaters, pro and con, do you really think that you are going to have any influence at all on teh matter 30-50 posts down from the top of a thread about a townhouse? Tone it down here and get some perspective, willya!
Anonymous at March 9, 2007 10:22 AM, you wrote:
“Truth is it’s all speculation how AY will impact Brooklyn.”
Has any large project in NYC failed catastrophically? Has any piece of land lost value permanently as a result of what has been built upon it?
You added:
“AY has just as much a chance of failing as it does succeeding.”
Yeah. Sure. You can argue about Ratner’s ultimate exposure to the success or lack of success of this project, but he’s got a lot of skin in the game. If internal projects put success at 50-50, this project would never have been pursued.
You opined:
“The speculation was supposed to be based on facts and stats, but we weren’t allowed to bring those stats in studies into the discussion.”
What “facts” and “stats” were those? From the mid-60s to the early 1990s the city was slipping and sliding. Perhaps the tipping point may have been passed in 1977. And the peak of crime may have passed in 1992.
Over the last 40 years NYC has had quite a ride. How will the next 40 differ? One way to make it better is to increase the number of tax-payers and reduce the number of tax-consumers.
In other words, build more housing for people who can pay their bills instead of building more housing for people who can’t.
Which alternative is more attractive? A sports stadium like AY, or the housing project that replaced Ebbet’s Field?
I don’t think any of these comparisons like WTC or Battery Park, apply. Manhattan is Manhattan is Manhattan. Truth is it’s all speculation how AY will impact Brooklyn. AY has just as much a chance of failing as it does succeeding. The speculation was supposed to be based on facts and stats, but we weren’t allowed to bring those stats in studies into the discussion. That’s the part that’s disturbing. If AY does succeed it will be purely by chance. Ratner and the city wouldn’t be able to take credit for it, frankly. As for game attendees driving vs. taking public transportation, gimme a break, those people are addicted to their cars. You’ll only get their car keys from them out of their cold dead hands. Even the residents of Central and outer Brooklyn drive everywhere. To work every day in the city, to shop, to dinner, everywhere.
Actually, a large portion of the WTC site was a gardening center…
The controversy over Atlantic Yards falls far short of battles and corruption that surrounded the building of the Brooklyn Bridge. Yet no one will advocate its removal or claim its construction was a bad idea.
The AY project is just another big NYC project suffering the usual slings and arrows of naysayers who appear every time. Should we tear down Lincoln Center and give it back to the Sharks and the Jets? Should we replace the UN with the slums that occupied that site previously? What about the World Trade Center site? It was a decaying area when it was chosen for the setting for the towers.
We should’ve let Ratner rebuild Iraq. Instead of effing up our home, he could’ve used a few hundred mil to put up a few Gehry buildings over there.
At least the job would’ve got done.