House of the Day: 351 Pacific Street
This 20-footer in Boerum Hill should spark a lot of interest at $2,095,000, we suspect, unless Boerum Hill has lost its hotness and someone forgot to tell us. The house has lots of old deets (including five marble fireplaces and two pier mirrors). There are some slightly non-traditional touches that work quite nicely, too, namely…
This 20-footer in Boerum Hill should spark a lot of interest at $2,095,000, we suspect, unless Boerum Hill has lost its hotness and someone forgot to tell us. The house has lots of old deets (including five marble fireplaces and two pier mirrors). There are some slightly non-traditional touches that work quite nicely, too, namely the skylight and splash of exposed brick in the lofty top-floor studio space. As for the price, it falls right between the $2.27 million that 90 Dean Street (one block west) sold for in November and the $1.965 million that 208 Dean Street (one block east) sold for in January. The first open house will be on Sunday from 12 to 2. Should be a crowded one.
351 Pacific Street [Corcoran] GMAP P*Shark
Exactly, 3:05pm. The dregs of society support AY and the stadium. That alone should be telling us something.
the pro ay crowd is so unruly can you imagine opening day? as soon as you speak aginst them they resort to name calling.
Listen here and listen real good….
STFU!!!!!
10:02 here. Oops I name-called! What’s a more civil term for “loser”? Maybe I’d say this instead: nasty people on the internet are irresponsible and rude.
Jeezus, guys, I’m not even saying AY is doomed to fail. I’ve specifically said that. All I’ve said is this, in attempt to simplify it for you, the successes of controversial developments in Manhattan over the last few decades are not entirely applicable comparisons to Brooklyn and AY.
That’s it.
And you disagree. That’s fine. But it’s possible to get into a debate without name-calling. Why get so nasty? Seriously, name one reason for name-calling and nastiness on a public forum. Does it improve society? No. Does it help the debate over AY? No. Does it make you a better person? Hardly. I hate this kind of thing. Nasty people on the internet are total utter losers.
Anonymous at March 10, 2007 12:49 PM, you responded:
“As for any big failures in NYC, well yeah, Ratner’s Atlantic Center development failed catastrophically.”
It’s operating.
Which was followed by:
“I would call it catastrophic failure, because it’s an unpleasant shopping experience most of Brooklyn (except Central Brooklyn) choose to avoid, it has failed to rent out all the commercial space, and it’s such a blight Ratner is already planning on tearing it down and replacing it at some point.”
There you go. It was a “starter mall.” And I agree it will see the wrecking ball as soon as a supermarket moves into the new AY facility. But as half-baked as that mall is, it shows people will shop at that location. Meanwhile, the Atlantic Terminal seems to be booming.
I’m not sure about the best use of the land under the Atlantic Center Mall, but we’ll hear some ideas pretty soon. Perhaps parking.
You claimed:
“AY is a situation where a certain type of development is getting thrust into a borough where no such development exists anywhere in the entire borough. There have been no other developments like that in the history of Manhattan.”
No? What about the Brooklyn Bridge? Perhaps Central Park? The Holland Tunnel?
You went on:
“There are simply no comparisons to AY in NYC.”
So what?
You closed:
“It doesn’t mean it’s doomed to failure, but there are no guarantees it will succeed either.”
No one has made either claim. But the completion of the project will add permanent value to AY’s 22 acres.
12:49 PM.
OMG, you anti-develpment people are really sick in the head! This is NYC and hipster/radicals/NIMBY snobs are not going to stifle the growth and development of NYC. No borough in the city is immune. In fifty years, both Brooklyn and Queens (and to a lesser extent the Bronx) will look very much like Manhattan. And guess what? Bitching and moaning about NYC development on a small time local blogsite is not going to get you any where either. Brooklyn has a fuck’n population of 2.5 million but for some insane reason you lunatics think that pontificating about your position on AY really matters to the vast majority of Brooklynites from Bensonhurst, Coney Island, East New York, Brownsville, Flatbush, Canarsie, Sheepshead Bay, etc.
Get a grip assholes! Brownstoner’s daily readership is lucky enough to be in the one hundreds but you dopes think that posting for days and days about AY really matters to the rank and file. WTF?
DDDB is broke and general community apathy towards AY exist for a fuck’n good reason; no matter the drawbacks, Brooklyn wants a professional basketball team (hockey too) and massive commercial and luxury housing development downtown. Yes, we have an inferiority complex and massive ego to match! There you have it. Now give it up!!
Sorry to drag this out! But I had to respond.
11:02 wrote:
“Has any large project in NYC failed catastrophically? Has any piece of land lost value permanently as a result of what has been built upon it?”
First of all, the value being lost permanently is not the problem. The value being lost for even 20 years is a problem. As for any big failures in NYC, well yeah, Ratner’s Atlantic Center development failed catastrophically. I would call it catastrophic failure, because it’s an unpleasant shopping experience most of Brooklyn (except Central Brooklyn) choose to avoid, it has failed to rent out all the commercial space, and it’s such a blight Ratner is already planning on tearing it down and replacing it at some point.
As for referring to all of “NYC” instead of Brooklyn, again I’ll say Manhattan is Manhattan. AY is a situation where a certain type of development is getting thrust into a borough where no such development exists anywhere in the entire borough. There have been no other developments like that in the history of Manhattan. When they built WTC, it’s not like it was the only skyscraper in all of Manhattan. When they built Battery Park, it was not the only complex of parks and buildings like that in Manhattan. There are simply no comparisons to AY in NYC. It doesn’t mean it’s doomed to failure, but there are no guarantees it will succeed either.
Um sorry to break this news to you 1:35 but the italians really didnt want to live near you.