House of the Day: Hawthorne Street Woodie
We aren’t intimately familiar with Hawthorne Street in Prospect Lefferts Gardens and this house looks okay to us, but we suspect that it is overpriced at $875,000 when compared to some of the more stately brownstones in the Lefferts Manor historic district that begins one block north of this place. So we’ve got a couple…
We aren’t intimately familiar with Hawthorne Street in Prospect Lefferts Gardens and this house looks okay to us, but we suspect that it is overpriced at $875,000 when compared to some of the more stately brownstones in the Lefferts Manor historic district that begins one block north of this place. So we’ve got a couple of questions: 1) What’s this block like? 2) Is this house indeed overpriced?
Hawthorne Street House [Foxtons] GMAP
oh franz fanonymous you are too funny stay in your f’ed up neighborhod and enjoy.Who the F you caling Kramer ass I am black and yes I had enough of that hood. Get a fucking life. I’ve found my paradise and its well integrated.
9:09
that’s too bad, because a group of us PLGers planned a modest benefit in order to raise money to offer you to move cak here ASAP and be our neighbor. so to hear that we can’t pay you to move here is really jarring.
everybody, the wine and cheese at the Popeye’s on Empire is off. sorry folks.
I lived in this neighborhood for fifteen (15) years to each his own but people are seriously disillusioned. PFA is correct the neighborhood is quite dicey..yeah you can get spacious coop quite affordable especially on Hawthorne. I knew people from so-called tough Bk hoods
Stuy that said they would not live in this section. I don’t know about peaceful environs the coop I left a few months later had two break-ins..You are still in your new neighborhood feelings. They could not pay me to live over there..
Dicey: Euphemism for an abundance of black people, pure and simple.
I walk down Flatbush in PLG each and every morning and each and every night. The selection of stores and services is acutely wanting, yes, apart from a few decent caribbean spots and your basic hardware pharmacy bodega type offerings. but to call it dicey or unsafe is just paranoid alarmism. loud kids can annoy, but not injure. shabba ranks blaring from a car can irk, but it can’t maim. never, not once, have i ever been threatened or made to feel unsafe, and other newcomers have expressed the same sentiment. so relax with the loaded terminology Kramer.
this is assuming of course, that you don’t consider the inability to buy goatcheese a threat to one’s safety.
AFAIK Anon. 12:05 AM is correct about the kitchen extensions. Most of the limestone/red tile roofed houses on Maple II have them, certainly all I can see from the rear windows of my house, which backs on Maple. Some of them also have second floor extensions, so the size of these houses, which look similar from the front, varies greatly. I don’t think any of the two story “Real Estate Associates” houses, near Rogers on all LM blocks, have rear extensions, but I might be wrong. I’d like to put in a good word for the brick colonial revival houses though–simpler yes, but really charming. I especially like the c.1915 ones on Midwood I that are identical to houses in the Albamarle-Kenmore H.D. in Victorian Flatbush.
Oh–BTW, pfa, dicier than BUSHWICK? I know that nabe has improved, with lots of new building to replace what was burned in the ’77 blackout rioting, but REALLY? Not that Flatbush Ave. doesn’t seem like all you say, but the QUIET as soon as you turn off Flatbush onto a Lefferts Manor block is striking.
I stand corrected about the brick houses. I forgot about the smaller brick houses on Midwood and Rutland one. The houses on Maple, though, all have kitchen extensions until you get three quarters of the way down the block toward Rogers.
the housing stock in the area is really remarkable. some great old victorians, some tudors, numerous 1920’s era (I guess) big apartment buildings, limestone townhouses, etc. unfortunately, the neighborhood feels a little dicey at night in the warmer months — dicier than bushwick. and flatbush avenue itself seems tacky, dirty, and chaotic. I want to love the neighborhood, it has SO MUCH going for it, but I can’t.
DT, I said BRICK 3 stories (@ 6:10). The two houses you mention were a limestone and a brownstone, which are always far more expensive in PLG/LM than the brick ones. The brick 3 stories in PLG/LM are narrower and shorter than limestones/brownstones, and have far fewer details and much less ornate details. They sell for about the same price as the 2 story brownstones.
As for the Maple street house that sold for 850K, it was actually a typical size for the area. The vast majority of two story homes in LM do not have a kitchen extension. Bob Marvin can correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that the only 2 storys that do have extensions are the row of identical limestones on the Bedford end of Maple. None of the houses on the Rogers end do.
The two story on Maple that sold for $850 was one of the smallest houses on the block. No kitchen extension. Renovated three story houses in the Manor are selling for quite a bit above this. As I mentioned above, 169 Rutland Road and also 28 Midwood, which sold for 1.1 Million.