Can't Cut It In Brooklyn? Try Buffalo.
Want a three-bedroom apartment on the park with front and back porches, an office and stained glass windows for $795? Try Buffalo. New York Magazine has the tale of a Brooklyn couple who decided to forsake their $1,300-a-month Sunset Park pad for bigger and better digs on New York State’s western frontier. Several ex-New Yorkers…

Want a three-bedroom apartment on the park with front and back porches, an office and stained glass windows for $795? Try Buffalo. New York Magazine has the tale of a Brooklyn couple who decided to forsake their $1,300-a-month Sunset Park pad for bigger and better digs on New York State’s western frontier. Several ex-New Yorkers wax philosophical about their post-NYC lives, too. I don’t miss my old life in New York,” one says. “I only miss the life in New York I know I never would have had.
Where the Urban Dream Life Is Going Cheap [NY Mag]
Buffalo Neighborhood. Photo by jeffk42.
wine lover, I can’t even begin to reply to your posts because they are so full of ignorance and assumptions that by the time I finished just laying out the details I will have far more gray hair than I already do. Thanks for your opinions, they added nothing.
gee- it’s nice to think I inspired you. Though I may want to reserve judgment on that until you actually post your “trenchant” comment.
MM- I remember that mall. It destroyed downtown Binghamton, but I think that’s begun to come back now. The downtown had some wonderful old cast iron buildings but it wasn’t really picturesque. But it had some fabulous houses in neighborhoods just outside the shopping district. Lived in a cople before i came back to NYC- sadly one of the mansions was torn down for a parking lot – shades of Joni Mitchell.
hey sorry to post and run..
historically, in both chicago where i lived a million years ago and here in NY, seen italian/polish neighborhoods gentrify to upper middle class/lower upper or whatever.. guess i’m saying folks with a 120-300 income range move into those hoods and live safely over and over again. specifically cobble hill/carroll gardens/west, middle slope, north williamsburg, greenpoint, yadda.
i define ghetto by the scary, or completely out of the element hoods for aforementioned income group. stores, shops, schools usually are not there and it’s tougher to fit in and get the things this group wants. this is my observation and opinion. i’m saying what i think is all.
hispanic areas also tend to gentrify because they are not owners and move when the rents and condos and high prices come in. saw that big time in chicago and now in major areas of williamsburg.
i think living near projects in brooklyn (which is less dense than manhattan) can be a real problem because of violence and break ins and muggings.
have too many stories to share including my own, but that has been my experience both here and in Chicago. in chicago, for instance, yuppies and the very wealthy living around cabrini green typically had major break in problems. of course, they are dismantling that project.
oh CRAP! Sorry bxgrl- I was doing a cut and paste on your earlier post. I had a particularly trenchant comment to make about spiedies and german beer but I hit the submit button before I could add it. Which now seem not so trenchant, now that I think about it. Sorry- my goof.
No biff- I’m not the dow-ozy-whatshisface pretending to be me pretending to be bxgrl.
Well, make of it what you will- it was chunks of lamb (although they do it with chicken too now) on a stick, that’s been marinated is spices and then grilled. You eat it with french bread and I profess it’s delicious. It’s the spices but I couldn’t figure out exactly what they were.
Of course men in skimpy bathing trunks are nothing to be sneezed at-. We used much german beer to take advantage of them.
I_haz_TWO_toilets – have you considered Saratoga or the Capitol region? For its size, which is not very big, Saratoga is extremely livable and walkable, and the Albany region does offer work opportunities.
It’s not commuting distance to NYC, though there is an Amtrak station there, so car free visiting would be easy.
I’m in the same boat as you. I posted in the suburban thread a couple of weeks back how we may just finally leave Brooklyn. I think we are leaning towards a suburb of NYC though.
Anyway, just thought I would put the suggestion out there to you and others in similar positions. I would consider Saratoga myself, but my in-laws live there 😛
Love those “ethnic white hoods”. Have to ask if that is a reference to Nordic ski caps, or maybe furry Russian hats. Perhaps Inuit fur parkas would do. Unfortunately KKK robes fit the bill as well, but I’m SURE that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the direction that wine lover was moving towards. NOTHING.
I love upstate NY, too. I’ve been all over the state over the years, as I grew up near Oneonta. Unfortunately, Utica became a ghost town way back in the 70’s when their entire downtown was displaced by a mall on the outskirts of town. Ironically,(or sadly, actually)the same thing happened to Binghamton when their mall was built. They were the same mall! The architecture and floorplan was the same, as was practically every store in both malls. Most of their industries started leaving around then, as well. The most prosperous small cities upstate are those with colleges, large hospitals and health related industries, tourism and/or seats of government.
I think Buffalo could be a perfectly fine place to live, if it works out with one’s job, etc. I love New York City for lots of reasons, but what good is the myriad of culture here if you can’t afford to go to anything? My out of town friends go to more Broadway shows than I do. I love to eat out, but good restaurants can be found anywhere, and probably more reasonably outside of the city. I’m not leaving anytime soon, but I don’t reject the idea of leaving someday. NY can be a cold, cruel town when you get old.
lurker, I’m not going to touch your 2 entryways reference with a 10-foot pole!
Braggart. I have 2 entryways, 300 (puff, puff- it feels like) steps AND 7 humongous windows. Ha! biff champion!