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Want a three-bedroom apartment on the park with front and back porches, an office and stained glass windows for $795? Try Buffalo. New York Magazine has the tale of a Brooklyn couple who decided to forsake their $1,300-a-month Sunset Park pad for bigger and better digs on New York State’s western frontier. Several ex-New Yorkers wax philosophical about their post-NYC lives, too. I don’t miss my old life in New York,” one says. “I only miss the life in New York I know I never would have had.
Where the Urban Dream Life Is Going Cheap [NY Mag]
Buffalo Neighborhood. Photo by jeffk42.


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  1. You know what kills me. I think the average American has lost their minds. We have a Mutant Asset Bubble that is imploding around our ears. We have a budget deficit of almost a trillion dollars. We have a insolvent Banking System. We have FALLING Real Estate prices. We have a negative saving rate. We need about 4 trillion dollars to bail us out of this mess. We have a fucked up foreign policy. We have wasted billions of dollars looking for “weapons of mass destruction”. A failed energy policy! Raging fucking Inflation. Hard core ass-raping of our middle-class. And all of the smugfucks can do is debate a dustup between Brooklyn and Buffalo??!!!

    You are fucking retards and I hope to GOD we have a DEEP Depression!!! No bullshit because people need to have their asses kick to restore some balance to this world!

    The What (FUCK ALL OF YOU)

    Someday this war is gonna end…

  2. two toilets – any reason why you have to stay northeast? i agree with the other comments. there are way easier-living cities with a good creative class in the southwest and northwest. austin, tx is great. houston is good and improving. portland is similar. it really just depends on your goals, but you can easily make $60K and have a way better quality of life elsewhere. if you are trying to make it as an artist, dancer, actor, journalist or hedge fund manager, then stay in nyc.

  3. Thanks Suburbandude. My hub & I make a little over $100k and we have one kid, and we’re finding it really tough, so I appreciate the insight. I’ll keep trying to get on buffalorising, just to check it out. I lived in Yorktown Heights during High School and my folks are in Hartsdale now, so Westchester is also a place we’ve considered, although I think a smaller city, rather than a suburb, is where we’re headed (and the suburbs of NYC are expensive).

    Hi ennulater. I rent those two toilets. 😉 Keep on keeping on, sister.

    A good point Sam. I was thinking the same thing myself. The difference, of course, is that the commute to Manhattan is significantly shorter from Brooklyn than from Buffalo (although some days on the F train, it doesn’t seem so).

  4. Some of you are very odd…

    Unless someone is commuting from Buffalo to Manhattan, I’m not sure what the point of a Buffalo v. Brooklyn comparison is. Might as well compare Weehawken and Tonawanda while you are at it.

    As for the home ownership issue, I think NYC rates are around 35%, and as far as I’m concerned NYC offers a boatload of negatives for the home owner v. most of the rest of the country (mostly having to do with the problems of multifamily v. single family residence).

    I’ve rented in and around the city for 15 years (mostly rent stabilized, which is nice if you can get it, but I got tired of living in a dive), and I’m looking to buy something in the next few years, but whether it is brooklyn, queens, long island, or jersey remains to be seen.

    It definitely won’t be Buffalo though. I couldn’t take the commute or the winters.

  5. While I’m not pining for Buffalo, it was nice to read an upbeat article about the city for once. (I’m a native Rochesterian, we’re bred to look down on 315ers)
    I moved downstate for college/job a dozen years ago. After so long grinding away here, the shine is honestly beginning to wear off of NYC.
    I can heartliy relate to I haz TWO toilets’ point of view. (although I only have one, hah) The husband and I are solidly middle class. We will never be able to buy in Brooklyn with the current rate of real estate appreciation unless some sort of doomsday scenario happens a la theWhat.
    Every year, especially after the birth of our son, the prospects in Rochacha look more and more appealing, to the horror of most our (unmarried, without kids) friends.
    I’m giving us 5 years. If we can’t buy a condo in a decent school district before then, we may be headed out. I don’t think the city will miss us, not nearly as much as we will miss it.

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