manhattan-calling-0509.jpgCould it be that many self-proclaimed Brooklyn loyalists are ready to trade it all in at the first sign of a recession? Was the borough’s surging popularity in recent years merely a function of Manhattan becoming unaffordable? Or is Brooklyn still a first choice for many? The Real Estate section cover story from yesterday’s New York Times certainly tries to create the impression that, given the chance, a number of folks who professed to like Brooklyn in recent years are finding the lure of affordable rents and proximity to work just too much to resists. Take Andrew Baisley, who describes himself as a “cheerleader for Brooklyn.” The Bushwick resident, though, just last month jumped at the chance to rent a $2,100-a-month one-bedroom in Chelsea. When you go to Manhattan, there’s an air of selling out, he says. I’ve accepted that. Let’s try to get a sense of how many fair-weather Brooklynites there really are out there:

Manhattan Calling [NY Times]


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  1. Northslope: what you write below is completely understandable…

    “But, the choice is between an apartment in Brooklyn with a long commute or a slightly smaller apartment in Manhattan with a shorter commute. Shorter commute = more time. And I have never in my life felt so in need of time as I do now.”

    I would think though that you have more of a chance of escaping apartment-dom in Brooklyn and having some outdoor space in Brooklyn.

  2. I noticed and commented on the falling manhattan rental prices a few weeks ago, and what a bummer that now everyone else is going to be jumping on the bandwagon!
    I’ve been priced out of the city since college. If I can find a decently sized 2 bedroom for under $2100, I’m definitely moving back no questions asked.

    Like northsloperenter mentioned, the commute time really eats into the quality and amount of time you get to spend with your kids in the evening before they have to go to bed- especially if they are young kids going to bed at 8pm. I’d love to have a 5-10 min commute instead of the 40+ minutes I currently deal with. That extra bit of time would mean I might actually get to eat with my family instead of heating something up when I get home.

    Everyone’s got different needs, I guess. For me, time > space.

  3. “Is that a list of what people will pay me monthly to live on the UES?”

    hahaha! All snobbery aside – I could move to the Upper West Side, Hells Kitchen or a few other Manhattan neighborhoods and make the best of my time there – but not the UES, never ever again. It really has nothing going for it. Crappy transportation, no culture, terrible dining/drinking options (unless you can afford to dine at Daniel every night) Yeah okay – you’re close to Central Park.

  4. Best RE article I’ve read in a long time!!!!
    Please go (back) to Manhattan and take your trendy-hype-cool-overpriced bars / restaurants / boutiques with you.

    Brooklyn will be quieter and more friendly for it! 🙂

  5. “I had my choice of 5 subway lines to get me to work in 10-15 minutes. From the slope, it takes me 40-45 minutes. Thats an extra hour a day traveling that I lose every day. When i lived on the UWS, I had fairway, zabars and god knows how many other supermarkets, cleaners, etc within a few blocks of my apartment. Brooklyn..well, we all know. from the UWS, I could be in Central Park in a few minutes, Yankee stadium in 15 minutes (as I do love the Yanks!), and Penn Station in 15 minutes (I use amtrak often enough for work). So, yes, I love the charm and beauty of brownstone Brooklyn, but not a day goes by where the commute and lack of convenience doesnt have me wishing that I could afford a comparable pad on the UWS.”

    Yoo Hoo Retards! Over here! As per Craigslist.

    1 Bedroom under 1700.00 per month listings!

    http://newyork.craigslist.org/search/nfa/mnh?query=&minAsk=min&maxAsk=1700&bedrooms=1&neighborhood=139

    May 11 – $1400 / 1br – All NEW ONE BEDS $1400-$1800 W/D-D/W – (Upper East Side) pic >> – (Upper East Side) img <<apts broker no fee

    May 11 – $1495 / 1br – ****************************FREE RENT********************************* – (Upper East Side) img <<apts by owner

    May 11 – $1695 / 2br – East 78th St! No Fee & SHOWING-Small but TRUE 2BED**RENOVATED!! – (Upper East Side) pic <<apts by owner

    May 11 – $1255 / 1br – Beautifully renovated 1Br Apt. 105th Street/2nd Avenue – (Upper East Side) pic <<apts by owner

    May 11 – $1525 / 1br – 1 Month Free – Large 1 bedroom -750sq-elevator-laundry-renovated – (Upper East Side) pic <<apts by owner

    May 11 – $1600 / 1br – ►►YOUTUBE VIDEO WALK-THRU: Studio w/PRIVATE BACKYARD ! – (Upper East Side) img <<apts broker no fee

    May 11 – $1395 / 1br – ** Cozy * Affordable * 1 Bed * Open House * 73rd& 3rd – (Upper East Side) img <<apts by owner

    May 11 – $1550 / 1br – 81st/2nd**Real 1 bedroom**Totally Renovated – (Upper East Side) <<apts by owner

    May 11 – $1550 / 1br – 85th. St. Off Lexington Ave. Alcove Studio, Junior One bedroom – (Upper East Side) pic <<apts broker no fee

    May 11 – $1675 / 1br – (NO FEE) *** Amazing Deal *** // 1 Bed — Renovated // E 75th St. – (Upper East Side) img <<apts broker no fee

    May 11 – $1650 / 1br – 650ft² – No fee! 1BR priced as studio! Fully renov. Sep fully equip ktchn, A/C, 84th 2/3 – (Upper East Side) img <<apts broker no fee

    And guess what????????!!! No Broker fee!!!! The owner will pay the Broker!!!!!

    The What (It’s so fucking over!!!!)

    Someday this war is gonna end…

  6. The main point is the Times have a whole page devoted to this movement back to Manhattan. Today there are plenty of people looking in the city again. Why pay premium money for crappy amenities when you can live in the city for a few bucks more. Remember the guy who brought a condo in midtown? I wonder if the collapse of the Mutant Asset Bubble has woken up the retards out of dreamland???

    These days people want VALUE not HYPE for their money and if Manhattan gets cheaper then it’s buh bye Brooklyn. The show is over and thanks for playing….

    The What (But… But.. the Broker told me I can get 2000.00 a month for my Studio)

    Someday (Very soon) this war is gonna end…

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