Boerum Hill Open House Tonight
If you’ve got nothing better to do tonight, you can stop by the open house at 447 Pacific Street in Boerum Hill from 6 to 7:30. There’s not much in the way of pictures to go on, so we can’t do much more than parrot the listing: Traditional lower duplex with grape leaf moldings, pocket…
If you’ve got nothing better to do tonight, you can stop by the open house at 447 Pacific Street in Boerum Hill from 6 to 7:30. There’s not much in the way of pictures to go on, so we can’t do much more than parrot the listing: Traditional lower duplex with grape leaf moldings, pocket doors, and marble mantles, all in a two bedroom unit with an open kitchen, washer & dryer, and private land-scaped garden topped by a more modern upper duplex with cathedral ceilinged living room, newly redone kitchen, a large skylight, wood burning fireplace, 2 bedrooms plus a den or home office. Price? $1.7 million.
447 Pacific Street [NYT Listings] GMAP
And I’d like to say that I moved from close-to- the-Wyckoff-Houses to close-to-the-Gowanus-Houses (VERY close) and I’m not convinced there’s a marked difference in crime rates, character or safety.
I think it depends on what map you look at. We always have called it Boerum Hill and that seems to be the accepted wisdom, but I have seen it referred to as Park Slope… but if you asked anyone in Park Slope whether any of Wyckoff Street (which becomes St. Marks Place at… 3rd Ave?), I’m sure they’d deny it (and maybe even turn up their noses, ha!).
I don’t think the house is reasonably priced, buy I don’t think any house with only two bathrooms in ANY neighborhood (Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn, wherever) where you might fear sending your kids to the public schools is worth $1.7 million. But hey, maybe I’m completely missing something.
Besides, we couldn’t afford this if we sold some of our internal organs.
And I wasn’t saying it’s in a different neighborhood entirely… but I know from living on Wyckoff that living on another block (say, particularly bucolic and seemingly fancy Bergen Street, one block over?) can be an entirely different world.
If the Wyckoff projects (between Nevins and 3rd, Warren and Baltic) aren’t part of Boerum Hill, what neighborhood is that area called? Because if they’re not in Boerum Hill, but the Gowanus projects (between Hoyt and Bond, Douglas and Wyckoff) are, then the house on Pacific Street — which is closer to the Wyckoff projects than the Gowanus projects — isn’t in Boerum Hill either.
Better tell the broker this house is in whatever neighborhood we call the neighborhood with the “bad” projects.
In all seriousness, the friends I know who live in Boerum Hill have never had a problem. But you can’t pretend like the $1.7 million house is in a different neighborhood entirely — it’s three short, not up-the-slope-long, blocks from where the woman got shot this weekend.
Wycoff Projects aren’t really a part of Boerum Hill. Gowanas “Housing” is more part of the neighorbood and are generally a tamer. They don’t “accidently” shoot pregnant ladies as much.
I lived on Wyckoff between Bond/Nevins for 7 years (less than a block from where the woman was shot) and quite literally never had a problem– block is all brownstones but in between two sections of the Wyckoff Houses (they end at Bond and at Nevins). That said, I used to hear gunshots every now and again.
It is notable (and sad) that most of the gun violence around the Gowanus and Wyckoff Houses takes place within the housing areas. Even though that still doesn’t make for a very safe surrounding area, that does separate the “inside” from the “outside.”
THAT said, Pacific Street is three blocks north of here. What difference does the shooting on Wyckoff make?!?
I’m anon who posted the story. No cynicism intended at all. I actually really like Boerum Hill a lot. Don’t live around there but love strolling through when I’m in the area. I really just posted it because I was surprised nobody had mentioned it, and that I hadn’t heard or read anything else about it.
$1.7 is lot of money to spend anywhere.
But Pacific St isnt jopust around the corner – and there
are $2m+ houses in Cobble Hill that are about as close to Gowanus projects as this house is to Wyckoff Gardens.
Yep, I heard about it, very sad. A good friend lives in Boerum Hill and my brother cat-sits there frequently. He has heard gun-battles from the Wyckoff Houses on numerous occassions (and has called the police of course). Has anyone read Jonathan Lethem’s book on growing up in Boerum Hill? It’s a beautiful neighborhood, but the Wyckoff Houses have not changed at all since the 1970s.
As to posting that story here, it seems pertinent to me. $1.7m is a lot of money to spend to live around the corner from gun-fights.
Btw, the three-story brick house I know of in Boerum Hill went for $200k in 1991. Just a fun fact…
Gosh anonymous, a cynical person might wonder why you chose to link that story to this open house listing