StreetLevel: More Bread, Brawn on 5th Avenue
A couple new 5th Avenue businesses are about to satisfy the demands of Slopers who’ve been longing for a one-stop shop to carbo-load and work out. The corner space on 6th Street is going to be a branch of Brooklyn Bread, the Carroll Gardens bakery on Court Street and 2nd Place. And the space right…
A couple new 5th Avenue businesses are about to satisfy the demands of Slopers who’ve been longing for a one-stop shop to carbo-load and work out. The corner space on 6th Street is going to be a branch of Brooklyn Bread, the Carroll Gardens bakery on Court Street and 2nd Place. And the space right next door is being turned into an outpost of Fitness Together, a gym with hundreds of franchises across the U.S. (Their only other NYC location, however, is in Cobble Hill.) Fitness Together emphasizes personal training, and the 5th Avenue space is being carved up to include three private studios. The gym is scheduled to open sometime next month, and the bakery should be cooking by late December or early January. GMAP
11:01 The purch is paying 6500 per month (signed in 2004 or 2005). the french resturant in the corner is paying around 2400 per month (signed a 30 yr lease in mid 90’s after making a deal with the landlord to remove basement violations that amounted to around 100k). The chiro place is paying 3500 per month. ginger’s bar around 3k per month.
you people are clueless.
yes, storefronts on 5th do get 15K per month.
you know how much a space this size rents for on broadway in the 90s??
35K A MONTH!!!
get caught up people. your homes tripled in value over the last 7 years.
SO DID RENTS!!!
9:39 how do you know that the stores on 5th and 5th get $15,000 per month in rent?
does anyone know what the market rent (per sq foot) in that area is?
9:39 your rent figures (assuming a standard 20′ wide storefront on 5th) are off by over 100% but dont let the facts stop your rant.
I have never eaten in Brooklyn Bread but your attitude is exactly why so many independent stores fail. If it is so difficult to run a store then the merchant should make sure the Bagels are virtually universally loved (not be indifferent as so many are).
People are so ridiculous when it comes to their analysis of local retail. In virtually every way the local merchant SHOULD have the advantage over the chain store (except capitalization).
Local storefronts rarely conform to the formula of strip mall born chains, local merchants can much better tailor their inventory to local tastes and niches, local merchants can more nimbly negotiate with landlords compared to national chains with standardized leases, indifferent attorney’s and large bureaucracies. And finally publicly owned chains are under constant pressure to steadily increase same store sales and operating margins, which are concerns completely not shared by a family owned store.
Yet despite these economic realities time and time again we hear this nonsense posted here that the increasing wealth of the neighborhood automatically means more chain stores. However the only reason that this has been true is because of the arrogance and laziness of many local merchants who are unwilling to adapt to a new clientèle and/or provide even the lowest level of service and quality. Say what you want but we all know that the reality of most local merchants is far from “Mr. Hooper” and much closer to a bitter, resentful curmudgeon.
One thing is sure, there are choices and if the quality isn’t there, neither will they be for long. The bagels on 7th Ave and 5th St. are superior to just about everything else, so we’ll see. The most tatseless and disgusting bagels currently reside in that place on 5th ave around 13-14 st. Was there once. Seems to be busy though, so maybe I am wrong about quality dictating longevity and sucess.
extremely successful? Or mob money. Who’s the one thats naive?
honestly some people are quite naive. or maybe just a little ignorant.
i saw nothing but rants about brooklyn bread on here until 9:01. everything from the bagels tasting like ass to it being run by the mob.
do you have any idea how much it costs to rent a commercial storefront on 5th avenue and 5th street these days? it’s something like 15 grand a month. no one is opening a 2nd store in a mom and pop chain unless they are extremely successful.
so fine. you don’t like their bagels.
they are probably doing just fine without you given how difficult it is to run a small businesses these days.
and no, i have no vested interest in this place..i’ve never even been. just tryin to stick up for the little guy a little bit.
Brooklyn Bread is not so bad. Yes, the service is very very uneven. However, the sandwiches are actually very good. Italian style tuna, fresh mozzerella etc. on homemade whole wheat Italian bread.
The bagels are really cibata rolls. I’m not sure if there is anything like this on 5th Avenue now.
“Maxwell Carpets closed!!!”
Two words: Hardwood floors.