Inside Third & Bond: Week 72
In 1948 the American Public Health Association predicted that the garbage disposal would cause the garbage can to ultimately follow the privy and become an anachronism. This prediction was made some twenty years after the garbage disposal was invented but fifty years before garbage disposals would be legalized in New York City. The garbage disposal…
In 1948 the American Public Health Association predicted that the garbage disposal would cause the garbage can to ultimately follow the privy and become an anachronism. This prediction was made some twenty years after the garbage disposal was invented but fifty years before garbage disposals would be legalized in New York City. The garbage disposal was meant to be a healthier way to dispose of kitchen scraps resulting in less vermin and stench. The downside was that sewage systems had to deal with considerably more organic material than ever before. Today, around 50% of American households have garbage disposals, most of which were produced by the InSinkErator company. Not even in those households has the garbage can disappeared but the garbage disposal’s popularity has fluctuated.
Well, the garbage disposals maintain steady popularity at Hudson. From the beginning, we planned to have garbage disposals in every kitchen sink at Third + Bond. Then, as we were running through the cabinetry bids, we came across a smelly problem. The cabinetry designed for the kitchens does not have a specific location for a garbage can (or recycling). The cabinet beneath the sink is too small given the disposal to provide room for a regular sized kitchen garbage can. Other under-counter cabinets are too far from the sink to be practical for garbage or are needed for things like silverware drawers. The result: residents would have to set out a freestanding trashcan in the kitchen, use a smaller can beneath the sink, or we have to figure out a redesign for the cabinetry.
The dirty little secret of most developments, even with beautiful kitchen renderings, is there’s no place to put a garbage can…
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A lot of buyers don’t worry about it until they are unpacking. Since we have open kitchens, the idea of a trashcan even a fancy stainless steel one sitting at the edge of the counter is less preferable. Some of the kitchens, such as the U-shaped ones, don’t have an obvious place to put even a freestanding trashcan.
At our office we have pull-out drawers that accommodate two trashcans and two recycling cans. It’s great for keeping the leftover tuna fish sandwiches from stinking up the lunchroom. As we were refining the cabinet bid for Third + Bond we realized that this would be a great detail to add. It’s not the kind of thing that will earn a higher sales price on its own. But it is the kind of detail that raises the overall quality of our product.
That is, if we can make it work.
What do you think? If it’s either garbage disposals or hidden, full-size trashcans, then which should win? Does it matter how big the kitchen is or how it’s laid out? Does it matter if the unit is a 3-bedroom duplex upwards of $1 million or if it’s a studio priced around $300,000?
Wherever we can have both, we will. But if we can’t have both, what should we use as our deciding criteria?
Inside Third & Bond: Weeks 1-71 [Brownstoner]
Cartoon from ASTC.org
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Rob – glad it only took you 72 posts to figure out this post.
PEX, what’s that? No, we only do copper. Typical.
garbage disposals are critical in NYC, but not as critical as a hidden trash can.
You must find a way to do both. you got to!!!!!!!!!
DIBS, see SnarkSlope, that’s exactly what I did in the new kitchen. Pullout drawer with two rectangular pails, one for garbage, one for recyclables.
Biff, not really. Not when it comes to building codes. A new invention is great in the rest of the country, the old guard that runs plumbing at the DOB won’t have it.
cmu, I’m surprised you got such a hifalutin’ appliance. It bet it’s chrome plated!
I’ve also installed a disposal, on my second problem. Plumbers who can’t install things that are under a hundred years old!
If these units have outdoor space as it sounds like most will, you should forego the garbage disposals and provide each unit with a compact compost bin. It is the true green thing to do; it doesn’t overwhelm the sewers, no electricity usage, less water usage, and creates free soil. So much talk of being “green”, it is time to put all this talk to action. It is a simple thing to do, it is clean, and for kids it is very educational.
“Garbage disposals were actually illegal in NYC up to about 15 years ago”
It is extremely rare that something that used to be illegal in New York (or anywhere in the US) is now legal. It’s almost always the other way around.
“This is such a racist cartoon. Is she calling that child Garbage?!?! Trash? White Trash?”
I believe she is actually denigrating The What with her statement, “What’s Garbage”!
denton????
This is such a racist cartoon.
Is she calling that child Garbage?!?!
Trash?
White Trash?
I don’t know what humongous beast you plan to have lurking under the sink, but in my 36″ cabinet with a 1hp garbage disposal, I have enough room for a pull-out door with an attached garbage (covered) can (on each side.) Less room for cleaning supplies, of course, but that’s a good thing; the average home has way too many toxic containers under the sink.