Congestion Pricing and Resident Permit Parking
Regardless of your position on the Bloomberg administration’s proposal for congestion pricing in Manhattan, it’s not hard to imagine how the implementation of such a plan could have a very negative trickle-down effect for those parts of the outer boroughs that are both close to Manhattan and serviced by major subway lines. As Sheldon Silver…
Regardless of your position on the Bloomberg administration’s proposal for congestion pricing in Manhattan, it’s not hard to imagine how the implementation of such a plan could have a very negative trickle-down effect for those parts of the outer boroughs that are both close to Manhattan and serviced by major subway lines. As Sheldon Silver said, “Some of those areas will become parking lots for the people driving around looking for parking spots in order to avoid congestion pricing fees.” To counter such criticism, Bloomberg has has floated the idea of making resident-only permit parking available (for a modest annual fee) in neighborhoods like Park Slope, Downtown Brooklyn and Long Island City. Queens Councilman John Liu isn’t buying the idea. “It doesn’t necessarily improve the situation, it just shifts the boundary of contention,” said Liu. “It sounds great, but I think the implementation would be a hard stretch.” Of course, there’s also another reason that residents of certain neighborhoods may want parking permits soon: Atlantic Yards. Are you in favor of resident-only parking permits?
Bloomberg Eying Resident-only Parking Permits [NY Daily News]
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All great cities thrive on congestion.
If you go to a city where there is no congestion, you are either in a dying city or one in a totalitarioan state where people are kept on a very tight leash.
Old pictures show tremendous congestion in NYC a hundred years ago for Pete’s sake.
Congestion is a pain but it is part of a thriving city, to try to reduce it by imposing a new tax is just reidiculous. It is a political trick foisted on the naive public.
The kind of local business that you need to drive to and then park at for more than 2-3 hours is either
a. A Bar. – too bad. Take a cab or walk home drunk (and stop peeing on my brownstone, you slob)
b. An illicit business- as in, your driving over to my North Slope block to go sit in your friend’s car (also parked) and smoke weed or sell or wait for a pickup, and then you’ll go to the bar on Flatbush (and then pee on my brownstone.)
Bring on the permit parking if these are the local businesses that will suffer.
Or open up your bar on the roof of a parking garage.
The whole premise here is specious. There is NO EVIDENCE that this kind of edge situation will take place. In every case where this has been documented, most recently in London, a study was recently conducted that found NO EVIDENCE of any negative impact around the congestion zone. Think about it for a second, is someone so desperate to drive that they’ll add $4 a day to their trip, and take the subway rather than pay $8 and drive? I have a feeling that people will just, as planners have been hoping, switch modes of travel rather than try to beat the system and save $4. Wouldn’t serious car commuters rather put another person in their car and just drive?
The whole idea is a scare tactic.
Al at 2:16 . . . dont get me started on stroller congestion on Smith st and/or 7th Ave. There is the real problem. Little kids. eww.
The “right of free passage” requires a place to park.
All of you people for neighborhood parking will be against it once you have lived with it for awhile. You will likely always have a spot in your neighborhood, but forget visiting your friends in other neighborhoods, forget patronizing other neighborhoods. Watch as your local restaraunts close down because only people within walking distance can now patronize them.
I’ve lived with neighborhood parking. It totally sucks.
First, I would love there to be less congestion. But, this is not the solution.
London has congestion pricing. I use to live there. It has not made any difference. The only noticable difference is the amount of money in your wallet.
It may have stopped a few people but nothing noticable.
But the really bad thing is taht now that the congestion fee is here and people are use to it, it will never go away. It will only be raised more and more as time goes by.
It is essentially just a tax.
you go into the Union Square subway station in the summer and wait for a train in 100 plus gegree heat, and tell me of the marvelous improvements in NYC mass transit!
OUR SUBWAYS SYSTEM SUCKS.
STATIONS ARE UGLY, NOISY, DIRTY, RAT-INFESTED, and DECREPIT. TRAINS ARE DIRTY, SMELLY, and OVERCROWDED.
other than that, the system is great.
Ignore the morons that say, you live in a city, take the subway or walk or bike.
People like you should be praised for raising your family and contributing to the economy of NYC. Not be harassed by smug egocentrics, or have the city make your life here more difficult and chase you away. (same for all those idiotic trash on ‘Pk Slope moms’ types).
And to me, parking permits and congestion pricing are things designed to make middle class city residents life tougher.
If they don’t drive, what do they care about parking problems and traffic jams anyway.
expert comment? this is brownstoner – we are all expert bullshitters. you should ask the forum about particle physics, too.