Condos of the Day: No Buyers for 45 Third Place
Justice continues to prevail in the case of the Carroll Gardens Atrocity. The addition is now complete and both the upper and lower duplexes, listed for $1,555,000 and $1,595,000 respectively, continue to sit on the market. If it weren’t for the butchery of the exterior and complete disregard for the community on the part of…
Justice continues to prevail in the case of the Carroll Gardens Atrocity. The addition is now complete and both the upper and lower duplexes, listed for $1,555,000 and $1,595,000 respectively, continue to sit on the market. If it weren’t for the butchery of the exterior and complete disregard for the community on the part of the developer, these things might be doing a little better, as the interiors look decent. Could it be that potential buyers are afraid of the social shunning that could happen if they vote with their wallets in favor of this place?
3rd Place Condo – Lower Duplex [Brown Harris Stevens]
3rd Place Condo – Upper Duplex [Brown Harris Stevens]
A Current Look at Third Place Horror Show [Brownstoner]
Price for CG Atrocity a “Fantasy” [Brownstoner] GMAP
Real Photos of Carroll Gardens Bastard [Brownstoner]
Carroll Gardens “Bastardization” Hits Market [Brownstoner]
CG Atrocity: There Goes the Neighborhood [Brownstoner]
how come you only bash the architect when it happens to be two specific architects.
The window was broken by kids, yup kids playing in the neighborhood. Was there the day it happened.
The northernmost basement/ground floor window has now been smashed three times on the property. So much for “security” or “safety” for $1.5 million.
I remember for years walking past the building and saying, “She’s a beaut, but I wish they’d get rid of that slightly out-of-kilter brown aluminum siding on the bay window.”
Careful what you wish for! This is as bad as the white mausoleum some other inspired person build a few doors down from my house on Union St.
It’s time to get on the city for landmark status.
Some good points (and good photos) from Fran and Jake Architect, but I personally still think the color of the facade on the extension is really unfortunate if not bizarre. Also the balconies and other details are unattractive. I think the statement still stands that it wasn’t the most creative or interesting architect in the world, that designed this extension. When this could and should have been an exciting project that would encourage a lot of imaginative ideas. By the way, I completely agree with whomever said a currugated metal facade would be a better solution. If you aren’t going to match the original details, then you need to make a statement and do something, ANYthing, interesting and attractive. But no more ugly, vaguely “contemporary”, milquetoast architecture anymore please.
Hey, Fran thanks for posting those photos, and something intelligent other than a one liner.
At first I didn’t like the addition myself, and wondered why the architect designed the outer volume as he did, now I know there was room for an addition. (RE: Justin’s response above, I am not certain your suggestion of brushed aluminum would been better, but then again that is why taste is personal.)
The interior space is actually really nice. As for the lower unit’s layout, I think the space was used wisely. You sleep in your bedroom, so the basement is quiet and has less light, so it seems appropriate to use the parlor (main level) as living space.
Seeing the photos of how it was (THANKS AGAIN FRAN), it does look better now, and I remember how poorly kept the property was when it had tenants.
I personally wish this website had less of a bitchy attitude in general, and more productive angle.
If you want the area to be landmarked, go sign the petition to landmark the area. Once it is landmarked, be ready to wait 6 months for them to be able to tell you what you can and can’t do with the home you’ve lived in for years.
Fran is right, bitch at the State for the taxes not the owner or developer, they would love to have others complain as well. I know mine just went up recently.
I live in the neighborhood and have watched this construction from the start, you’ll see my photos from back when it was poorly kept by the Dr. who used to own it. Yeah it is big, but personally I think it is a huge improvement to what was there, but that is my personal opinion like everyone’s on here.
Price: go look at other properties in the neighborhood, things are getting expensive. You might have lived here all your life, so now might be the time to sell. The asking price might be high, but I know that things have sold for more than 900 sq ft in the area. New buyers know that this is going to be an even better place in 2-5 years. All I can do is be thankful, because that means my property value is going up! When I saw the property at an open house, I was also told that both units are close to being sold, and that the lower unit has more than one potential buyer. They really are nice spaces, yeah the kids rooms were a bit small, but most are in this neighborhood, and they really were as large as they could make them given the space. I thought the layout was great.
I know the garage spaces have a waiting list (I am on it) Who has parking these days?
Taxes: Not sure why people always balk at the developer. Having worked for the NY tax assessment department. It is a matter of math based on numbers, not the asking price of a property. The developer is at least honest, some developers underestimate to get you to buy. He estimated high so that you would be pleasantly surprised later.
I suggested to the developer (who seemed nice) that some vines would be nice on the facade… a big wall of green is what I would like to see.
Photos attached.
im down for nyc to look more like tokyo
May they lose their shirts. They’ve already lost their souls.