What Was Eugene's LPC Vote Worth? $409,000
Remember the flap earlier this week about how Council Member Mathieu Eugene was opposing the creation of the Ocean on the Park Historic District because he wanted to hook up the owner of one of the twelve houses who was hoping to cash out to a developer? As we all know, Eugene cracked under a…
Remember the flap earlier this week about how Council Member Mathieu Eugene was opposing the creation of the Ocean on the Park Historic District because he wanted to hook up the owner of one of the twelve houses who was hoping to cash out to a developer? As we all know, Eugene cracked under a wave of public protest and decided to support the landmarking effort. And what about the poor owner whose backroom politicking ultimately failed? Well, with hopes of a tear-down dashed, he just slashed the asking price of his house at 189 Ocean Avenue by 26 percent from $1,599,000 to $1,190,000. Anyone care to cop to a little schadenfreude?
189 Ocean Avenue [Sotheby’s] GMAP
Ocean on the Park: Crisis Narrowly Averted [Brownstoner]
Councilman Threatens Ocean on the Park Historic District [Brownstoner]
“you certainly go after Jon all the time, and without reason. So don’t claim you don’t start anything. You damn well do and you damn well know it.”
Yeah but what does this have to do with YOU?????????? Huh Bxgrl???? What??????!!!
Brownstoner can defend himself!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
“Arabs practice Islam” – bxgrl at 1:53
Not to quibble too much here, but there are millions of Arab Christians, and Mizrahi Jews are also Arabs. Then there are Arab Druze and a host of other religious minorities. Basically, an Arab is someone who speaks, or whose ancestors spoke, Arabic as their native language. There’s enormous diversity in that population.
“What – It is at least insensitive, at best, and definitely prejudicial to mention someone’s religion or ethnicity when it doesn’t matter whatsoever to the tale being told. Mentioning “lawyer buds from the Synagogue” is anti-semitic in my book, and uncalled for, as surely as if you had said “brothers from the cell block”, in referring to another group. And please, save the googling of “Semite”. It is common usage to call prejudice towards Jews anti-Semitism, and has been for years. To get technical about who actually is a Semitic person is a red herring. If you want to rail over inaccuracies, start a campaign to stop calling black people “black”. After all, none of us are, technically speaking.”
Oh Morris you too huh???? OK When I got Full Auto I don’t want to hear any whining!
“I didn’t attack you, What- I attacked what you said. And if you reemember in the beginning I tried speaking to you about Eugene. ”
Oh WTF is this???
“what- you’re the one who always screams about gentrifyiers taking over the neighborhoods. Here is yet another prime example of people keeping their neighborhood the way they want it. I’m surprised you aren’t cheering for them. Instead you’re advocating special favors for one person who cares nothing about the neighborhood or his neighbors. But what can I expect from a rabid antisemite? I guess I shoould be flattered that you seem to think only us Jews are smart enough to be lawyers – call when you need us. We’ll give you a discount.”
Ok you know something F*** ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!! OK ALL OF YOU!!!!!
Why does this tards have to be “do gooders” huh??? Oh now everyone is PC but when Brownstoner post crap on Covert Race/Class warfare I don’t hear a f***** peep out of no one!!!!! F**** You Bxgrl and F**** you Morris!!!
The What (And f**** you too)
Someday this war is gonna end…
I didn’t attack you, What- I attacked what you said. And if you reemember in the beginning I tried speaking to you about Eugene. You’re the one going off on people and making dumbass remarks. You start things all the time- don’t play the injured innocent here. You try to be the most provocative person on brownstoner- you certainly go after Jon all the time, and without reason. So don’t claim you don’t start anything. You damn well do and you damn well know it.
Oh, forgot to mention that I didn’t attribute these houses to Montrose Morris. I knew they were Axel Hedman, and said so in the letter I read into the record at LPC.
The ST’s cells are deteriorating, but her heart and spirit have always been in the right place on this issue, and preservation and the protection of neighborhoods in general.
Wow, what a mess.
I reserve final comment on the good Councilman for a later time. I hope Brooklynista is correct, and he learns something. His district is multi-ethnic, has the gamut of socio-economic issues going on, and is very complex, as are most changing Bklyn neighborhoods. He is indeed going to have to learn to do some research, get out of his zone of familiarity, and catch up. He has staff, he has plenty of people in the community who are willing to introduce him to the many issues, and next time, he has no excuse.
While no one has the right to stop someone from making a profit, the issues in this case are not as clear cut as Benson would like them to be. The owners of 189 do not seem to simply want to sell their house, and be gone, they seem to want to make megabucks, taking advantage of an already shady situation next door. This is their opportunity to sue McDonalds for having hot coffee.(PLEASE NOTE, nitpickers, suing McDonalds is a METAPHOR, I am NOT saying these people are suing McDonalds.)I certainly have some compassion for them, as I know the whole sale, tear down, arrested development scenario next door was not pleasant, and they have legit legal issues with the developer. So sell at a fair price, and put the house in the rear view mirror as you leave. There are plenty of people who would love a Park view house, even if next to a construction site.
Brownstoner has been on the forefront of these issues, and I applaud him. He probably did more to advocate the turn around than anyone, as this blog’s readership is larger than HDC’s, or any local blog. Kudos.
What – It is at least insensitive, at best, and definitely prejudicial to mention someone’s religion or ethnicity when it doesn’t matter whatsoever to the tale being told. Mentioning “lawyer buds from the Synagogue” is anti-semitic in my book, and uncalled for, as surely as if you had said “brothers from the cell block”, in referring to another group. And please, save the googling of “Semite”. It is common usage to call prejudice towards Jews anti-Semitism, and has been for years. To get technical about who actually is a Semitic person is a red herring. If you want to rail over inaccuracies, start a campaign to stop calling black people “black”. After all, none of us are, technically speaking.
Dave, your timeline is not only accurate, it probably should be classified as prophesy.
“I can see the truce thing ain’t gonna work”
This is the first thing you got right today! Remember I don’t start things, I finnish them!
You had no right attacking me! I did not mention you or said anything to you.
The What
Someday this war is gonna end…
I can see the truce thing ain’t gonna work
What- right. The day I accept you as the authority on the history of the Jews will be the day. We were talking Semitic. Once again you’re rewriting. As for the thought turning my stomach- hardly. That’s your neurosis, not mine. I just like accuracy in my historical sources and I see little of that in your commentary.