Water Street Showdown: Guttman to Gut Dumbo?
If you’re wondering what the next preservation fight is gonna be, we’ve got a pretty good idea. Joshua Guttman, who has earned almost universal contempt for the lack of respect he has shown for both his tenants and the building code, is prepping to tear down 205 Water/188 Plymouth Street in Dumbo, we hear. The…

If you’re wondering what the next preservation fight is gonna be, we’ve got a pretty good idea. Joshua Guttman, who has earned almost universal contempt for the lack of respect he has shown for both his tenants and the building code, is prepping to tear down 205 Water/188 Plymouth Street in Dumbo, we hear. The way things are shaking out, it’s going to be a sprint to the finish line. Preservationists (including the DUMBO Neighborhood Association) are scrambling to save the 19th Century foundry, which was built by E.W. Bliss, a builder of the Brooklyn Bridge, just as Guttman is erecting a scaffolding. Landmarks may hold a hearing as soon as next month but it’s not clear whether Guttman will have already received the green light to begin demolition before then. As an aside, it looks like Scarano was the architect of record on this project last Spring until he lost his self-certification rights. GMAP DOB
So then you know who the partners are that formed 205 Water Street, LLC.
Please explain then how they have removed themselves from the other vested interests.
205 water st llc duh!!!! what did guttman ever do to you that you have such a problem with
look it up yourself on property shark. i don’t have to do your research for you.
Please don’t leave everyone in suspense tough-guy. Tell everyone who actually owns this property.
you asses if you do your research you will see that guttman dosent even own the damn building why the hell do you pick on him
i have mixed feelings about this site but it does have a fantastic iron water-tower high above it. something you don’t see everyday.
maybe if it were not g-man doing the project there would not be as much debate. but, if you walk to the next block, at Bridge & Water, you see g-man’s work in progress and its not looking to good.
i vote un-decided on this one, but i will miss the water-tower.
I am a small developer who is thinking about buying an old manufacturing warehouse near this site. My plans are to restore the brick and build relatively affordable loft style condos and commercial space. I see no profitable reason not to integrate the old, cobble stone, funky integrity of DUMBO into my project. That is why people want to live there in the first place, right?
So, I hope this developer is respectful and builds a structure people will appreciate. If it’s not the original structure, it should be better than the original. That would mean respecting the integrity of the neighborhood and adding energy efficient, structurally sound and safety conscious amenities.
Let’s all cross our fingers!
IF Guttman was a responsible developer, then I wouldn’t have a problem but chances are he will put up another shithole.
Another hi-rise in Dumbo is just redundant! There is already an over population of hi-rises in this very small neighborhood–and Units are not selling the way they used to. Both Clocktower apartments and Sweeney apartments are languishing for months in a static market, 70 Washington never sold out, J Condo may be half full (but is not sold out). The numerous projects in Williamsburg are failing to sell. It’s time to stop putting up these ugly, unimaginative buildings and preserve some of the beauty and history of these neighborhoods. There needs to be more attention paid to city planning instead of just giving the developers their way. Based on his horrific record, Guttman should be banned from developing any more real estate in New York City. The fact that the city continues to give him permits is astonishing. He’s going to end up killing someone.