Carroll Gardens Historic District May Grow
The Landmarks Preservation Commission released the boundaries of the expanded Historic District it is pushing for in Carroll Gardens and, not surprisingly, not everyone was pleased. The city would like to expand the pitifully small area that was protected back in 1973 (shown above) to include all the blocks bounded by Court Street, Henry Street,…
The Landmarks Preservation Commission released the boundaries of the expanded Historic District it is pushing for in Carroll Gardens and, not surprisingly, not everyone was pleased. The city would like to expand the pitifully small area that was protected back in 1973 (shown above) to include all the blocks bounded by Court Street, Henry Street, Huntington Street and First Place. Sounds like a nice idea to us but there are bound to be some whiners, right? Right. “Landmarking will force the old-timers out,” said John Esposito, co-founder of Citizens Against Landmarks. “All the new people who have $100,000 income a year think this is a great idea.” (This choice of this number seems reminiscent of Dr. Evil’s famous “one million dollars” line in Austin Powers; after all, it’s not like $100,000 a year goes too far in the Carroll Gardens housing market these days!) The plan for expanding the historic district is supported by the Carroll Gardens Neighborhood Association and the Brooklyn Preservation Council, and seems to be in keeping with the spirit of last year’s rezoning which made it harder to put up new out-of-context buildings in the low-rise community. No-brainer!
City Wants Second Carroll Gardens Historic District [NY Post]
Minard, and you don’t have to believe in preserving historic nabes of brownstone Brooklyn to be on Brownstoner.
Yeah, Benson, Bxgrl, who is white, and her husband, who is black, were called names and chased down the street in Carroll Gardens, back in the 80’s. They did not report it to the authorities, as that would have been a waste of time. Since babs is/was in the same kind of interracial relationship, I’m assuming something similar happened to her, and I’ve heard the same from others. It happened. It’s not a nice fact, but it is a fact. There are creeps in every neighborhood, and any bad experience taints someone’s personal impression of that neighborhood for some time to come. It’s certainly not limited to Carroll Gardens.
Your own condescension knows no bounds. There is plenty of disagreement on this thread, but only you try to make a personal statement from it. Why jump on me? I only said that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Babs’ personal recollections are no more or less valuable than your own.
It’s Toe the Line — but not for either of those reasons:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_the_line
In olden days prize fights, a line was drawn on the ground, and both fighters had to place their toe on the line.
I think it is “tow the line” as in tow paths along canals.
But you don’t have to tow the line to believe in preserving the historic neighborhoods of brownstone brooklyn.
I’ve lived in area since 70’s. I would think wearing rose-colored glasses if think that walking down many blocks in neighborhood generation ago with dark skin would be free from harassment or welcome as a tenant.
Friend of mine was asked by realtor what his religion was
(landlady wanted to know)….maybe she was afraid he was jewish.
Whats the hate on Mr. B. re the dumb $100K salary comment by Mr. Esposito.
Lets say a brownstone in Carroll Gardnes is going for 1.2 mill. You’re earning $100K. You can theredfore get only a $350K mortgage. Say you have $150K saved. You’re a million years from being able to buy a house in Costly Gardens. So people earning 100K a year, or 150K a year ain’t buying a landmarked brownstone. They’re SOL too.
That comment says more about the ridiculousness of NYC house prices (and Eposito’s needing to update his figures).
It’s not a racial attack, but here’s one for ya Benson:
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Bias Attack in Carroll Gardens…
March 11th, 2010
How could this happen in Carroll Gardens?
Last year a pizzeria and bar on Court Street decided to do something different. South Brooklyn Pizza used to be closed Mondays. But then they decided to have what they described as a “Gay Party†on Mondays.
As the NY TImes reported last April:
“I thought, why can’t there be a night when gays don’t have to travel into the city or stay at home?†Mr. Siegel said.
This question is probably rarely asked in Carroll Gardens, at least by longtime residents like Buddy Scotto, owner of Scotto Funeral Home.
“We’re a lot more tolerant than we used to be,†acknowledged Mr. Scotto, an 80-year-old who has spent his entire life in the neighborhood. “Maybe we can live with this, but we’re going to watch closely.â€
Maybe we can live with this?
Minard — Also, there is A LOT more to brownstone living than having a facade that can be printed in Architectural Digest! Actually MOST of the positive aspects of living in a low-rise, densely populated neighborhood have NOTHING to do with fancy facades. Most of it is predicated on the zoning which his a huge impact on the neighborhood “feel” — much more so than whether or not there are period doors and etched glass transoms.