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randolph | 7 years and 2 months ago

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is it one of these? now i am dying to see pictures of this place!

https://streeteasy.com/building/st-george-tower/floorplans

nyc_sport | 7 years and 2 months ago

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https://www.brickunderground.com/blog/2015/01/ask_an_expert_windows

yudashasom | 7 years and 2 months ago

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> @Andrew Porter
> No guards are required in any apartment where there are no children. Period.

Window guards, the ones that you’re referring to are required for children under 11 and otherwise optional. This is different from vent limiters that the OP has which are now required on all new windows.

yudashasom | 7 years and 2 months ago

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And as far as a key, are you sure it’s not just a hex key or something you can buy online?

heightsgal | 7 years and 2 months ago

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I searched and went to several hardware stores — nobody has it, custom made. And they all warned that I could break the windows if I try to remove without custom key.

heightsgal | 7 years and 2 months ago

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Thanks to no-permitz and nyc_sport for useful leads. (LOVING this forum, BTW: loads of smart people & insights.)

So what’s interesting is that the vent limiter and child safety laws all apply to buildings classified as R2 or R3 structures in City lingo. But R2 is a walk-up bldg and R3 is a max 3-story one — my building is elevator, 30 stories, which I think makes it an R4. And none of the legal language in the code refers to R4.

Anybody know more about this??

http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/finance/jump/hlpbldgcode.html

and
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/buildings/bldgs_bulletins/bb_2015-017.pdf

beeklyn | 7 years and 2 months ago

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Doesn’t quite help your particular case, but every new high rise in NYC has the 4′ limit on the windows in lieu of the removable “window guard”.

beeklyn | 7 years and 2 months ago

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edit. 4 INCH

heightsgal | 7 years and 2 months ago

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But my building was erected in 1919 — do edicts for new bldgs apply?

beeklyn | 7 years and 2 months ago

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i don’t know. new windows though. and maybe tougher with coop, since management is responsible for guard/limits.

greenworks | 7 years and 2 months ago

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Hey, it’s been forever and a day since I lived in/was on co-op board (thank God, never again), but regardless of what the law requires, the Board can probably just determine to adhere to whatever provisions it wants to.

Board that are reasonable are generally open to hearing that their reasoning may be wrong. This does not sound like the case here. Even if they are wrong (and they may very well be) they sound like the type of Board that will just decide to apply it regardless.

So yes, go ahead and try to get that bulletproof brief decimating their rationale but it sounds like you’re up against a wall here (or a vent limiter). But I have had friends with similar experiences find that that type of thing just solidifies the Board’s position.

Your mileage may vary.

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Sigh.