>>> Whole House Battery

About once every year— about this time— I post to see if anyone has had any luck navigating through all the complex State and City regulations on installing a whole house battery to “time shift” electric expenses through Time Of Use Billing.

Theoretically, TOU billing and a 14kW battery could save thousands of dollars a year for the typical brownstone owner.

I see Chinese Lithium-Ion batteries are now under $500kW, and the costs of the inverter is basically negligible…. In my case creating a sub $8,000 solution to power the whole house for literally pennies a month.

Anyone have any luck over at the DOB, Fire Dpt and Insurance carrier for either installation or simply news?

Thnx.

jrs84o

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jrs84o | 3 years and 5 months ago

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Also- I don’t think the solar companies are overwhelmingly onboard with whole house battery thing.

Once there is a CLEAR path for adoption it will be easier (and much less expensive) to simply install two boxes in the basement (inverter and battery) vs. $20-30K (after rebates) worth of equipment on the roof.

PLUS

The solar companies will lose their SWEET refund/subsidy deal they have with the state authorities which puts thousands of dollars in their pocket for each installation.

jrs84o | 3 years and 5 months ago

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Ive been following this CLOSELY for 4 years now, nothing seems to get better at the city level.

Two years ago, NYSERDA published a solar/battery model plan…. But I’ve seen no actual implementation or REAL pathway for consumer adoption.

https://www.nyserda.ny.gov/All-Programs/clean-energy-siting/battery-energy-storage-guidebook

Cole | 3 years and 5 months ago

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I’ve been told the same (batteries not allowed). However, BSW tells me that it will be easy to retrofit existing solar arrays once they are permitted.

irfan | 3 years and 5 months ago

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As of 3 months ago they are not permitted in nyc per fire code. The fire department doesn’t have the right chemicals to put out a battery fire (or they’re not quickly available) and doesn’t seem like there is any desire to change that. This is from Brooklyn solar works when I spoke with them about solar. Happy to be told things have changed though!

irfan | 3 years and 5 months ago

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As of 3 months ago they are not permitted in nyc per fire code. The fire department doesn’t have the right chemicals to put out a battery fire (or they’re not quickly available) and doesn’t seem like there is any desire to change that. This is from Brooklyn solar works when I spoke with them about solar. Happy to be told things have changed though!

slimc | 3 years and 5 months ago

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You may want to direct this question to solar installers – I think they are current on what is permissible as many of their customers are eager to install a battery to compliment their PV arrays.