Repointing Cellar Walls
It’s that time again to repoint and parge our cellar walls. We parged some of the walls 10 years ago and now the part we did not do has holes and crumbling mortar. Could anyone please explain the proper procedure, about how long it should take one or two workers, and about how much we should pay? Our walls are rubble, house is 1890s, and the wall needing attention is about 20 feet wide and 7 feet high. Thank you so much!

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cate | 4 years and 4 months ago
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Thank you so much, Urbandad, greatly appreciated.

hkapstein | 4 years and 4 months ago
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Well it’s getting harder to guess on cost with contractors busy and materials shortages happening. I’ll take a shot, but there’s probably a contractor on this forum who could tell us in a heartbeat.
I’d figure maybe 600 a day for 2 masons, plus 200 or so for materials. You don’t need much materials, mainly mortar, sand, tools. So how many days is this job? Perhaps 3-4? I’d ask whoever is bidding. So that would put us around 2000-2600 if you hire a mason, or maybe 3-5k if you hire a small contractor. Am I close?
I did have a foundation wall repointed years ago, but I can’t remember how long it took. I didn’t parge it, and the crew was doing other work for me at the same time.

cate | 4 years and 4 months ago
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Urbandad, any guesses as to the cost and how long it might take? Just doing the front wall, about 20×7. (An engineer told us to repoint and parge every 10 years due to unavoidable moisture infiltration.) Thank you!

hkapstein | 4 years and 4 months ago
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Granite has a very high compressive strength and would probably be fine, I’m assuming that’s what it is. I could be wrong. The Portland mortar is less flexible and won’t last as long. Probably many houses have never had the foundation repointed. I’d guess it may last more like 30-50 years vs 100+ years, but that’s complete speculation. I used an NHL mortar for pointing the foundation and was happy with that, but it may add more complexity than it’s worth for your project.

JohnHancock | 4 years and 4 months ago
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If you’re repointing brick I would worry about lime mortar. These are fieldstone foundations and I don’t think these boulders would disintegrate from Portland.

Guest User | 4 years and 4 months ago
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I think we paid about 4-5k to repoint our entire foundation top to bottom, and it was in horrible shape with huge gaps in the mortar. It took 2 workers about 2.5 weeks, I think. At the time I didn’t know then about historic lime mortar (and neither did the mason, unfortunately) so they just used Portland cement… probably a big mistake, but aside from that they did a good job.

cate | 4 years and 4 months ago
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Anyone care to venture a guess as to the price? I would think an experienced mason and a helper could knock this out in a day, most likely.

cate | 4 years and 4 months ago
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Thanks!

JohnHancock | 4 years and 4 months ago
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There’s a this old house topic on YouTube on repointing a fieldstone rubble wall in the basement, pretty simple and fun stuff!