Rental unit/heating/A/C
I’m wondering if anyone knows what the average monthly heat and central A/C cost would be for a ground floor rental unit of a brownstone?
Thanks! Jennifer

Jena1220
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andriywww1990 | 3 years ago
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it will depend a lot on where people keep the thermostats. that might mean a lot more than anything else. in this two story queens home with sun hitting the back wall and over the roof from early morning until late afternoon, our entire electric bill runs 200 to 225 a month over the summer. we have three window ac units and pretty much now that we have someone home all the time since covid began, one of those units is on all the time; either the bigger one on the first floor (12,000 BTU) during most of the day or two smaller window units at night in bedrooms. on a day like today, there are no ac units on. so even with these, our electric bill is only 225 and this is for a small house, not a shaded first floor apt. i do not know if my electric bill ever really hit 250. i do not agree with no-permits on a lot of things, but i do on this – it is less, not more for the ac part of that electric bill. i suppose during the winter our electric is about 100/mo.
if i have nothing better to do tonight, i might run some numbers on the oil/electric per sq foot.

yudashasom | 3 years ago
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$175-250

cate | 3 years ago
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I would estimate $300 to $600 a month at a minimum, depending on what kind of system it is, assuming everything is optimal. It could be wildly more than that if there are issues.

andriywww1990 | 3 years ago
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I bet the dept of energy has some program or data to help us run stuff like this-

andriywww1990 | 3 years ago
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So, maybe some of us could help op by figuring te cost per square foot to heat and cool our houses and post it. My guess is, when done by the square foot and including upper floors exposed to the hot sun and more costly to cool and lower floors more costly to heat, it might balance out and the average per sq foot might be very similar.
As a matter of interest, i once took care of an 89000 square foot building and it did not matter whather we were using electric to cool in the summer or gas to heat in the winter, the combined electic and gas bills were consistently about 13k a month. The gas in the winter to heat supplanted the electric to cool in the summer almost dollar to dollar.
I might see if i can run some numbers later but this sounds like it is something that dork would be really good at breaking down. Or bob marvin who has time to watch an oak tree grow.

cate | 3 years ago
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Ground floor rental unit of a brownstone is likely around 20×45, give or take some, plus maybe an extension. If it is attached on both sides, costs will be lower. Whether or not it is insulated, caulked, doors and windows properly maintained and sealed will make a huge difference to your comfort. Extensions, which of course are not attached, can sometimes be cold even when not leaky. What type of heating and cooling you have and whether it’s properly configured also affects the cost.

Lurker | 3 years ago
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Way too many variables to give you an estimate—size of house, type of HVAC, temp settings, outdoor temps, whether hot water is included in that, etc etc. The low is delivery cost of electric ($25). The high end is any number higher than that.

asaph718936 | 3 years ago
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I have experience with minimal use, we try to avoid using unless needed. My bill was $300-$400 per month

cate | 3 years and 1 month ago
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To give you a ballpark, depending on these variables, it could be anywhere from $300 a month or more.

cate | 3 years and 1 month ago
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Good question. Can the owner give you past monthly bills? There are quite a few variables to consider. Is the heat and central A/C provided entirely by mini split units or some other type of heating (such as water baseboard units powered by gas)? How big is the unit? Is the brownstone attached on both sides? I suppose the brownstone doesn’t have solar? Heating costs for oil have recently doubled. Not sure about other types of power. I don’t have a mini split system but maybe other people who do can chime in.