New Entry Doors, security issues? glass/plexi??

I plan to renovate/update my entry doors and vestibule. In my neighborhood, owners are replacing their old hi security steel doors with fully glass or plexi alumin doors, modern, decent looking but I am wondering how they are maintaining security with that transparency. Does anyone have experience with this? I want to do a full wooden door, something traditional. But am concerned about the “glass”. Any advice appreciated. mj

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jahmel1018 | 8 years and 3 months ago

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If other houses on your block still have the original glass in their front doors (you can tell if the glass is BEVELED), unlikely to have had a break-in through that glass in the past.

kimthorn10 | 8 years and 3 months ago

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thank you all, this gave me some real solid feedback. 🙂

NeoGrec | 8 years and 3 months ago

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We have glass double doors at the top of the stoop with a half glass/half wood door behind that (i.e. on the other side of the vestibule). We’re landmarked so couldn’t replace them if we wanted to. Never had a concern about security but every block/neighborhood is different. Some neighbors have iron window guards on their doors. Depends a bit on your set up. Obviously you’re more vulnerable if you don’t have a vestibule. But, as Jonah intimates, a heavy front door is a significant obstacle. Also, most burglars don’t like climbing through a broken glass door — too dangerous and too visible vs. being handy with a crowbar.

Guest User | 8 years and 3 months ago

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From your post, I understood like you are preferring full wooden door rather than glass since you feel it as not secured.
But in normal glass doors/windows, you can install security film to safeguard from potential break-in. Hence it can prevent from the attack of burglars.

lynnepoling | 8 years and 3 months ago

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Hi,
Im a window and door guy based in Brooklyn.

I can order a 2 1/4″ thick mahogany door with a 1 3/8″ solid wood door frame. (Double the standard thickness)
Glass can be 1/4″ laminated glass- or any other option.

Add a solid lock and security shouldn’t be a problem.

Please feel free to email me at Jonah@whqinc.com

kimthorn10 | 8 years and 3 months ago

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Bushwick. Love your door!

daveinbedstuy | 8 years and 3 months ago

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Where do you live? I lived on Stuyvesant Ave and replaced mine with this door that had nice bevel-cut glass and no security measures whatsoever! [Fullsizeoutput_8](//muut.com/u/brownstoner/s3/:brownstoner:IIEg:fullsizeoutput_8.jpeg.jpg)

dorkofwindsor | 8 years and 3 months ago

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sounds like you want an impact rated laminated glass. About as good s you can do without going bulletproof glass. Some will call this hurricane glass, laminated security glass, etc. This glass is usually a plastic (PVB) film laminated in between two sheets of glass.

empathie00 | 8 years and 3 months ago

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We put laminated glass in our front door panels – sounds like what SoSlope is talking about, except it was done already before it was installed – 2 panes of glass glued together with the security film in the middle. So far so good, though as far as I know, no one has tried to break it 🙂

SoSlope | 8 years and 3 months ago

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Also, it was reasonably easy to install myself and, once it dries, is completely invisible (provide you do a decent job getting the bubbles out).

SoSlope | 8 years and 3 months ago

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I used this 3M film on all of my outside windows:
https://goo.gl/VcSZWJ

I can’t tell you if it works or not (I haven’t exactly taken a hammer to my front windows to test it…), but it gives me some comfort. I’m sure it is harder to break than simple glass.

With that said, a committed burglar could probably just take a crow bar or sledgehammer to the wooden door itself.