Local Law 152

Anyone have any experience with this?

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in Dept. of Buildings (DOB) 4 years and 7 months ago

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Master Plvmber | 3 years and 10 months ago

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I do the LL152 Inspections. I charge a little more for larger buildings with multiple meters but not much. There are all kinds of horror stories around these inspections and I’m looking to get through them as painlessly as possible. It is little more than a visual safety inspection and sniffing for “significant” gas leaks with a detector wand. Call for a price if you’d like. I’m at (718/212) 980-0909 or email to info@gatewayplumbing.com

housepoor | 3 years and 10 months ago

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Most threads on LL 152 are from last year. I am wondering if there are any recommendations on who did a good job recently and for how much? Does the number of units in a building impact the pricing? I need to get it done by the end of this year and am happy to wait until the June 30th deadline frenzy is over. My multi-family is in Clinton Hill. Thanks as always.

Guest User | 4 years and 6 months ago

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this update from this month doesn’t show any indication that there has been a change. https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/buildings/pdf/ll152_gas_piping_cert_sn.pdf
i don’t think they could really change at this point though. Are the people telling you this trying to get money from you for a more thorough inspection? i was also told by someone today that the plumbers will be carrying gas sniffing wands that connect directly to national grid/coned, but i have no reason to believe that this is true.

Guest User | 4 years and 6 months ago

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this update from this month doesn’t show any indication that there has been a change. https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/buildings/pdf/ll152_gas_piping_cert_sn.pdf
i don’t think they could really change at this point though. Are the people telling you this trying to get money from you for a more thorough inspection? i was also told by someone today that the plumbers will be carrying gas sniffing wands that connect directly to national grid/coned, but i have no reason to believe that this is true.

burpgun | 4 years and 6 months ago

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Anyone hear of this? I’ve been told by a couple of people in the plumbing game that there’s been an amendment and now the gas inspection requires access to the entire property, including apartments and rented spaces. I’m trying to get my situation sorted and it looks like a much bigger deal than I thought going in. Meanwhile, nobody at the DoB picks up the phone…

Guest User | 4 years and 7 months ago

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Thank you Maggie O. That’s so helpful

Guest User | 4 years and 7 months ago

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Guest User | 4 years and 7 months ago

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Guest User | 4 years and 7 months ago

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actually, what i identified as a gray area is actually described in the FAQ:
Q1. What does exposed gas piping consist of?
A1. Exposed gas piping includes gas piping that is open to view. It does not include gas piping above a drop ceiling or behind an access door.

Guest User | 4 years and 7 months ago

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actually, what i identified as a gray area is actually described in the FAQ:
Q1. What does exposed gas piping consist of?
A1. Exposed gas piping includes gas piping that is open to view. It does not include gas piping above a drop ceiling or behind an access door.

Guest User | 4 years and 7 months ago

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as i understand it the inspection is only of VISIBLE piping and only in COMMON areas (not in individual apartments) so depending on your situation it may be pretty limited. one of many gray areas may be where you have gas piping above a hung ceiling where you could just take out a few tiles to see more piping, i don’t know whether that would be considered “visible” or not.

Guest User | 4 years and 7 months ago

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as i understand it the inspection is only of VISIBLE piping and only in COMMON areas (not in individual apartments) so depending on your situation it may be pretty limited. one of many gray areas may be where you have gas piping above a hung ceiling where you could just take out a few tiles to see more piping, i don’t know whether that would be considered “visible” or not.

Guest User | 4 years and 7 months ago

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Are gas pipes always visible? If you have a finished basement I assume not. Does anyone know theoretically what would happen if that was the case, like do you need to actually tear down drywall to expose all piping?

Guest User | 4 years and 7 months ago

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more than 2 families. R3 buildings are not included in the requirement.
the other piece that folks might not realize is that if your building does not have any gas service you still need to file documentation!

Guest User | 4 years and 7 months ago

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more than 2 families. R3 buildings are not included in the requirement.
the other piece that folks might not realize is that if your building does not have any gas service you still need to file documentation!

Arkady | 4 years and 7 months ago

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What qualifies as MFD?

mozeeatupu | 4 years and 7 months ago

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And as typical for the city, owners are left twisting in the wind.

lkrshacmzcy | 4 years and 7 months ago

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What Maggie said. And with all the Licensed Plumbers opting out from the ambiguity of it, things should be interesting. I will be watching with my popcorn!

lkrshacmzcy | 4 years and 7 months ago

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What Maggie said. And with all the Licensed Plumbers opting out from the ambiguity of it, things should be interesting. I will be watching with my popcorn!