Landmark Window Replacement

I am researching companies to replace landmark windows in Cobble Hill. I have gotten wildly different estimates: WindowFix and NYHistorical Windows around $60,000 and WindowsWeAre at around $30,000. I’m baffled as to why this discrepancy. Does anybody have experience/opinion/advice about these companies?
Thank you.

cinquelee26

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jimcornell55 | 2 years and 4 months ago

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How much should one expect to pay per window?

tristianismyrealtor | 2 years and 4 months ago

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We used Windows we are to replace most of the windows in our landmarked Park Slope brownstone. They were excellent–not one complaint. Efficient, nice, cleaned everything afterwards, figured out solutions to bizarre problems that arose. Highly recommend.

cinquelee26 | 2 years and 4 months ago

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so far I am liking Bay Ridge windows and will get one more estimate from Airflo. Thanks all.

cinquelee26 | 2 years and 4 months ago

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so far I am liking Bay Ridge windows and will get one more estimate from Airflo. Thanks all.

jimcornell55 | 2 years and 4 months ago

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I received an estimate of 2k per window for installation only. It still seemed high awaiting more estimates.

rene | 2 years and 4 months ago

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I have used Windows We Are. And would use them again.

jimcornell55 | 2 years and 4 months ago

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That makes sense and I would agree with your comments. The pricing seems to range so there may be an installer who does it for less and not cheaply.

justinromeu26 | 2 years and 4 months ago

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billy, you are correct. two men did 10 cheap vinyl windows in a day on my house. . this included capping the exterior. a friend of mine and his helper did it and i was the gopher and clean up guy. but these were cheap, light, and smallish vinyl windows. also, my friend was not on the hook if he scratched one or damaged something (it was move, move move). i once installed windows with a window contractor and i could have done this project over 3 days alone.

it gets a little different with expensive product. in addition to being larger and a little harder (riskier) to handle, they may be a bit more delicate and perhaps a little more temperamental to set correctly (i have never installed these high end windows, just mass market vinyl and aluminum). if a contractor is on the hook for the entire job, in addition to moving slower he will have to have something built into the job for the risk associated with handling something expensive (things can go wrong that are out of his or her control and when that happens he cannot go back the the customer and ask for m ore money). all companies do this, not just small contractors. all companies build money in for employee error. that may be why they charge so much to handle these.

fyi: someone called me a year ago and asked me to come adjust or repair some windows several stories up in lower manhattan. the job actually involved standing in open windows over the street. the people were willing to pay whatever i wanted (they might have gone well over $200 an hour). in this case, because of the risk to my well being, i told the customer “i would not do this for all the money in the world” (this is the truth). that is what risk does, it drives up costs.

steve
www.brownstonehomeinspection.com
www.thetinkerswagon.com

jimcornell55 | 2 years and 4 months ago

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30K seems ridiculous considering a door or window can be installed in a few hours. Did you try Air Flo?

cinquelee26 | 2 years and 4 months ago

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could also be worse..it’s wild out there

cinquelee26 | 2 years and 4 months ago

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could also be worse..it’s wild out there

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I assume if one calls more places, you’ll get a better price.

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10 windows: Bayridge is $20,000 less than NY Historical.

cinquelee26 | 2 years and 4 months ago

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10 windows: Bayridge is $20,000 less than NY Historical.

cate | 2 years and 4 months ago

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Amy Berkman, when we installed windows about ten years ago now we were informed the fancy ones (such as Landmarks approved) cost about $3,000 each including installation. (This was for standard brownstone type windows including 80 tall ones on the parlor floor.) When I asked how many windows, I was trying to get a sense of the size of the project relative to the cost.

jimcornell55 | 2 years and 4 months ago

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Window Fix came in at less than Windows We Are for my job.

cate | 2 years and 4 months ago

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Did you or the installers specify exactly the same brand and type of windows in each case? Could the higher quotes involve some custom windows? Marvin vs. Pella? Etc.

colonialrevival | 2 years and 4 months ago

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If you still have your original wood windows and have determined you’re not interested in restoring them, you may consider listing them here for old house enthusiasts to take them off your hands and spare them from landfill. 🙂

jimcornell55 | 2 years and 4 months ago

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Ask them how long it’s going to take and for the installation details. I would also get a few more quotes as these seem a bit high, thought prices are all over the place.