Gas fired boilers

There is still a place for installing gas boilers….
A recent installation
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lkrshacmzcy | 2 years and 2 months ago

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^ My worry with RS-53 is the same with Bluon; it will not get backed by the manufacturer and void warranties.
To make matters worse: when I was down at the Daikin facility, they talked about how every manufacturer is going to switch to using their own brand-specific refrigerant.
Business are made to make money; they will always find a way.
Back to the original though: great work on that installation!

lkrshacmzcy | 2 years and 2 months ago

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^ My worry with RS-53 is the same with Bluon; it will not get backed by the manufacturer and void warranties.
To make matters worse: when I was down at the Daikin facility, they talked about how every manufacturer is going to switch to using their own brand-specific refrigerant.
Business are made to make money; they will always find a way.
Back to the original though: great work on that installation!

Guest User | 2 years and 2 months ago

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Luckily, RS-53 is an environmentally friendly drop-in replacement for R410A
https://www.refsols.com/RS-53.html#:~:text=RS%2D53%20(R470A)%20is,than%20half%20that%20of%20R410A.

Lurker | 2 years and 2 months ago

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Wow–to that point about 410a, the phase-out has already begun. No idea the lifespan of the mini splits or the refrigerant, but new 410a rules have already been implemented and full adoption is this coming January 2024.
https://www.trinityconsultants.com/news/hfc-refrigerant-rule-in-effect-in-new-york

lkrshacmzcy | 2 years and 2 months ago

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Correct; in your post you said it was a 410A system if I remember, correct?
410A is on the way out and will be obsolete extremely soon so will get the same “you used 410A in your house?!” extremely soon. When I visited Texas in December I believe they said the phase out was starting this year.
My point was just to show state of the art today will be old, or even dangerous in cases like mercury or lead, by tomorrow.
For the original post; it is an efficiency way to use Natural Gas today.

lkrshacmzcy | 2 years and 2 months ago

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Correct; in your post you said it was a 410A system if I remember, correct?
410A is on the way out and will be obsolete extremely soon so will get the same “you used 410A in your house?!” extremely soon. When I visited Texas in December I believe they said the phase out was starting this year.
My point was just to show state of the art today will be old, or even dangerous in cases like mercury or lead, by tomorrow.
For the original post; it is an efficiency way to use Natural Gas today.

randolph | 2 years and 2 months ago

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> @Chris Petri
> Says the guy who just got a quote on a 410A System.

not sure what you are talking about, I replaced my entire heating/cooling system with hyper heat mini splits.

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lkrshacmzcy | 2 years and 2 months ago

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But hey the company I work for does all the work above so the changing opinions, perceptions and laws are all music to me.

lkrshacmzcy | 2 years and 2 months ago

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But hey the company I work for does all the work above so the changing opinions, perceptions and laws are all music to me.

lkrshacmzcy | 2 years and 2 months ago

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Says the guy who just got a quote on a 410A System. That system will be not only obsolete but illegal within five years which means your refrigerant recharge costs are going to sky-rocket as well as replacement equipment; if they are even allowed to be sold that is….I call that INSANE.

lkrshacmzcy | 2 years and 2 months ago

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Says the guy who just got a quote on a 410A System. That system will be not only obsolete but illegal within five years which means your refrigerant recharge costs are going to sky-rocket as well as replacement equipment; if they are even allowed to be sold that is….I call that INSANE.

randolph | 2 years and 2 months ago

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i am with JPDA and you don’t need a time machine or crystal ball, it has already happened. installing a new gas fired boiler is INSANE.

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JPDA
Kids today are shocked we had paint with lead or had mercury in our thermostats
In ten years people will say “You actually combusted hydrocarbons INSIDE your house?
In twenty years people will say “You had cellphone batteries in your pocket made with Lithium batteries
In fifty years…who knows.

Unless you have a time machine or crystal ball, we work with the research we have.
You say soon to be antique and we say current state of the art.

lkrshacmzcy | 2 years and 2 months ago

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JPDA
Kids today are shocked we had paint with lead or had mercury in our thermostats
In ten years people will say “You actually combusted hydrocarbons INSIDE your house?
In twenty years people will say “You had cellphone batteries in your pocket made with Lithium batteries
In fifty years…who knows.

Unless you have a time machine or crystal ball, we work with the research we have.
You say soon to be antique and we say current state of the art.

Augustiner | 2 years and 2 months ago

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No leaky intake there.
I think condensing boilers are the best way to heat a house.

JPDA | 2 years and 2 months ago

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To be clear, your work looks great – I’m just reflecting on how the world is moving on…

JPDA | 2 years and 2 months ago

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Nice pipes you got there in your soon-to-be antique boiler porn. In ten years people will say “You actually combusted hydrocarbons INSIDE your house? What did that do to your Indoor Air Quality? How did you manage the heat loss through your leaky combustion air intake?”

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Beautiful work. I believe that HE Units could have such a larger market if the barrier to enter from the city wasn’t so high