Combining Floors - Legal 3 family to 2 family conversion?

Im in contract to buy a 3 family townhouse.

– garden, parlor and top floors are separate apartments
– the parlor and top floor share an outdoor entrance. They are connected by a foyer + internal staircase

I want to take the top two apartments as my own for owners use. I’d like to remove the extra kitchen and cap the gas & plumbinh.

To legally do this work, am I looking at an ALT-2 filing at the minimum?

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cate | 1 month ago

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AFIK no DOB permit (such as an Alt-1 or Alt-2) is required to cap fixtures. The licensed plumber will submit whatever permit with the DOB is needed to do the work, just like they would do if they were replacing an old boiler with a new one. This is not the same as a permit an architect or engineer files for a change of occupancy or alteration such as moving walls. It will not increase your property tax. However, converting a kitchen into a bathroom can often require an Alt-2 filed by an architect or engineer, depending on the design. In any case, you would be well advised to work with an architect on all of this, unless you are going the very minimal route and merely capping fixtures. If you are doing more than the bare bones minimum, an experienced architect will make the whole project more successful and also how to design the changes so no DOB permits are required, if that is your preference.

alexkavourias | 1 month ago

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Yes! would love to convert it into a laundry room and/or add an extra bathroom on the top floor.

So, I would only need to get standard kitchen renovation permits from DOB for this type of work?

cate | 1 month ago

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AFAIK, as long as the house remains a legal three family and you don’t change egress, you don’t need to file an Alt-1, and as long as you don’t move wet rooms, you don’t need to file an Alt-2. Simply capping fixtures should not require an Alt-2. Also FWIW sometimes a kitchen can be turned into a lovely craft/laundry room with no significant changes.