Carroll Gardens Townhouse?
https://streeteasy.com/building/200-carroll-street-brooklyn/house?card=1
This house is pretty. It doesn’t fit my personal wish list, but I imagine it’ll generate interest based on the photos. The listing states that it is a legal 3-family that has been used as a single-family for the last 30 years. It looks to have been renovated recently.
My question is – how did the DOB sign off on the work given that the interior doesn’t seem to fulfill the requirements for a legal 3-family? Is there some sort of a workaround one can use in this situation? I’m curious because from all my research, it seems like the DOB inspectors are sticklers.

jdefel
in General Discussion 3 years and 2 months ago
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andriywww1990 | 3 years and 1 month ago
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ithaca, one family never showered.

Guest User | 3 years and 1 month ago
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How could it be a legal 3-family with 2.5 baths?

ib28 | 3 years and 1 month ago
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Anyone else have thought on this?

ib28 | 3 years and 1 month ago
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Anyone else have thought on this?

resident2 | 3 years and 2 months ago
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Obviously walls have been moved etc….. The issue I would be concerned with is the removal of the sprinkler system or fire escape, even if continuing to use it as a one family. It is a criminal offence to remove either without a permit & sign off, which would then not be allowed in a 3 family at any time during the current CofO’s history. Any buyer will assume that criminal liability.
I am surprised this very well respected & experienced Broker has included the 3 family issue in the initial description ….
To get a one family CofO retrospectively for this house may require installing a sprinkler system etc.

cate | 3 years and 2 months ago
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If they didn’t move any walls or add any wet rooms, possibly permits were not required also.

randolph | 3 years and 2 months ago
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it seems they never pulled any permits, so nothing to sign off on