Anyone ever turned a garden floor pantry area into a kitchen?
Hi Brownstoners,
Has anyone ever turned the pretty large pantry/closet area in the middle of many brownstone garden floors into a kitchen? This would probably involve moving a non-load bearing wall a couple of feet and then this larger area could be either a spacious galley kitchen or similar walk-through type of kitchen. This would be in a floor-through rental apartment with not enough space for a kitchen island. An open kitchen wall onto the living room is less attractive for several reasons. All advice would be appreciated!
Thanks!
citizenjane
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cate | 8 years and 1 month ago
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In that house you mention, the kitchen is open to the living room. It’s in a mid-19th century Italianate. With the later houses, built in the third quarter of the 19th century, there are pass through areas with built-in cupboards and the layout seems to lend itself to very easily turning the pass through into a very nice galley kitchen, with room on the side to spare for other uses.
boerum-hill | 8 years and 1 month ago
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There’s a Fort Greene house that just went up on Brownstoner today that has the garden floor rental laid out exactly like that – kitchen in the middle…
renovator2 | 8 years and 1 month ago
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I’m assuming there are 3 major components to this rental floor. Living – Cooking -Sleeping. If the garden is nice and going to be accessible to the tenant, and the street traffic’s not to bad, front to back I’d go Sleeping, Cooking (and probably open) to Living (bathroom location depends on the space). Having nice outdoor space is a luxury and should increase the amount you can charge for rent.
cate | 8 years and 1 month ago
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Also I was thinking last night the left over pantry space would make a handy closet for the bedroom. Good luck with the renovation. Sounds like a fun project!
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@cate – my thinking exactly! i just cant stomach a kitchen in the livingroom. glad others have also pursued something similar. thanks!
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Yes! I visited a friend’s house last week and they had turned the pass-through area between the dining room and kitchen into a galley kitchen on the garden floor. I thought it was great — so efficient and with plenty of counter space, and it looked beautiful. So much better than having a kitchen in the living room, IMHO. They stole a little bit of space from the pantry to make the galley kitchen wide enough. Be sure to allow at least three feet for the corridor and be careful appliance doors can open fully and not into each other. An architect is money well spent on these types of alterations. At my friend’s, the pantry became the bathroom — but you could also have the bathroom on the side, as is usually the case on the garden floor, and off the rear hall so guests don’t necessarily have to go through the bedroom to use it.
citizenjane | 8 years and 1 month ago
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Sorry for the slow response-been under the weather. @MDR – did you need to move any walls to set up your kitchen? @ brokelin – I’ve actually seen few that were creative or which I’d like, but I’ll check the listings. @ daveinbedstuy – I totally agree. Sleeping away from street noise is so much better (plus greater privacy).
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The house I owned had the kitchen in the rear and I always thought it would have been a better use of space and made more sense if the kitchen was in the middle and the bedroom in the rear
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Brooklyn is full of brownstones that have been converted to apartments and coops with kitchens added in the middle of floors. Go look at some at open houses to see examples, or at least look up available units online with photos to get ideas of how it has been done..
MDR | 8 years and 1 month ago
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Yes, we did that. The garden level had been duplexed with the parlor floor but we wanted to rent the garden level as it’s own apartment so we installed a kitchen in that middle space. There were two small doors facing the front living room and we turned that into one wide opening so the kitchen is fairly open to the living room. The bedroom is in the back. [DSCF8273](//muut.com/u/brownstoner/s3/:brownstoner:Tcqx:dscf8273.jpg.jpg) [DSCF8278](//muut.com/u/brownstoner/s3/:brownstoner:KDDT:dscf8278.jpg.jpg)