AirBNB law

How do people feel about the new law banning AirBNB in NYC for whole apartments on rentals less than 30 days?

– http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/21/13361536/airbnb-new-york-cuomo-bill-ban-short-term

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eman134 | 8 years and 9 months ago

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i tried to like your post but was blocked by the website

resident2 | 8 years and 9 months ago

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As a landlord; I have had tenants renting there apartments on Air BnB against the terms of their lease and it causes many problems; for other tenants in the building, not knowing who is coming and going, the Air BnB guests not caring about the “house rules” regarding garbage disposal, party policy and pets etc. after one instance several tenants experienced ID theft issues that we suspect was an Air BnB “guest. As well as bed bug issues etc.
As the Aunt of many nieces and nephews that use Air BnB regularly to travel all around the world; most NY air BnB’s are tenants that are illegaly subletting their apartments or large landlords running whole buildings as illegal Hotels, yet still taking advantage of Real estate tax abatements that were supposed to provide full time housing for regular tenants.
Air BnB should make a better effort in not listing apartments that are not listed by the owner (not tenants) and to make sure that they are in one or two family houses only. Or a room within a home where the host is present at all times to supervise the “guest”.
Yes, it is grea t that Air BnB gives people an opportunity to travel at a cost much cheaper than a reasonable hotel. But not at the expense of tenants and landlords trying to maintain degree of safety and privacy.

Arkady | 8 years and 9 months ago

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I don’t know if that really means rent as such – I often say “it pays the rent” meaning mortgage, expenses, etc.

lgwlcvqt | 8 years and 9 months ago

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A WSJ article mentioned that “more than three-quarters of hosts say that sharing their space helps them pay rent” which indicates they’re not owners.

lgwlcvqt | 8 years and 9 months ago

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A WSJ article mentioned that “more than three-quarters of hosts say that sharing their space helps them pay rent” which indicates they’re not owners.

daveinbedstuy | 8 years and 9 months ago

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> @Mozee Atupu
> Another issue is almost all people don’t own the properties they’re renting out.

Can you cite some actual numbers in support of that?

Augustiner | 8 years and 9 months ago

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just another reason to never ever consider pursuing a 3 family C of O if you have a 1 or 2 family

lgwlcvqt | 8 years and 9 months ago

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Another issue is almost all people don’t own the properties they’re renting out.

lgwlcvqt | 8 years and 9 months ago

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Another issue is almost all people don’t own the properties they’re renting out.

daveinbedstuy | 8 years and 9 months ago

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Which clearly indicates that the AP doesn’t fully comprehend “row houses.”

nalusurf | 8 years and 9 months ago

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This quote is from AP news posted a few days ago regarding this new law…

“The new law won’t apply to rentals in single-family homes, row houses or apartment spare rooms if the resident is present.”

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> @chemosphere
> Did renters lose?

I don’t believe this is as big an issue in NYC as it is in say, San Francisco according to the anecdotal news I read. I’ve rented Air BnBs in Brooklyn Heights and they are almost universally single apartments rented by individual owners and not always available, not units taken off the market for AirBnB rental exclusively. In addition, in the BH neighborhood proper there are never more than about a dozen available at any one time. Insignificant. Sure, there are a lot more in Manhattan but a very small fraction of the overall apt. market.

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Augustiner, yes, they were the only winners. Also a big flip off of NYC by Cuomo and the rest which could have won in so many ways like you stated.

chemosphere | 8 years and 9 months ago

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Did renters lose?

Augustiner | 8 years and 9 months ago

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Looks like the hotel lobby won, and everybody else lost:
The city on collecting additional taxes, businesses outside Manhattan on additional income; homeowners on substituting their mortgage; tourists on affordable ways to visit the city.

shahnandersen

in General Discussion 8 years and 9 months ago

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There are two separate laws/regulations. The City rules apparently applies to all housing including one- and two-family homes. The new State law has significantly higher penalties than the City rules and applies to three or more unit buildings.

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Can’t edit previous post.
Think Private Homes Are Safe to List on Airbnb? Think Again.
http://www.wnyc.org/story/think-private-homes-are-safe-list-airbnb-think-again/

lgwlcvqt | 8 years and 9 months ago

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Can’t edit previous post.
Think Private Homes Are Safe to List on Airbnb? Think Again.
http://www.wnyc.org/story/think-private-homes-are-safe-list-airbnb-think-again/

lgwlcvqt | 8 years and 9 months ago

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They fine first, and let the courts sort it out