Installing a bathtub in existing powder room in CONDO cellar?

Can anyone answer this: If we already have a bathroom in a duplex condo–as opposed to a stand-alone house –with a cellar, are we legally able to add a bathtub to an existing half-bath/powder room? We have no intention of turning the cellar into an illegal residence, its our rec room/kids playroom. I know that the building code was updated in 2011 (http://www.nyc.gov/html/dob/downloads/bldgs_bulletins/bb_2011-010.pdf) to allow for a three fixture (full) bathroom in a cellar under certain conditions, and it applies to a “one or two-family dwelling.” Is a condo included in that definition of dwelling? Also, what permits or C of O changes, if any, would be necessary in this case? Thanks very much for any assistance.

PSGal

in Building Code 11 years and 8 months ago

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vmologa | 10 years and 3 months ago

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you can set the [built-in](http://www.aquaticaplumbing.com/bathtubs/acrylic-drop-in-bathtubs/ “built-in”) bath and then you will not be issues

klfsrwedwpgdqyh | 11 years and 3 months ago

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Hi – just doing my own research on the same problem…have either of you found out more? I currently have a first floor & cellar apartment with an existing 3 fixture bathroom and want to renovate (ideally would add a 4th fixture – separate tub & shower). There are 3 other units in the COOP building with the same configuration (and are recently renovated) and I’m worried about opening up a can of worms… Thanks to anyone for the help!

briank | 11 years and 8 months ago

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Hi PSGAL, I meant that MDL may prescribe some limitations on cellar use, and this may include limitations on the number of fixtures. Your apartment being a condo falls unto the MDL. It is an interesting situation, that’s quite common throughout Brooklyn. Many of my clients have added the tub or shower illegally, but I have the gut feeling there should be some loophole somewhere. I’ll keep you posted if I come onto something. I was hoping the B’stoner crowd would chime in, but…

PSGal | 11 years and 8 months ago

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Thanks much Briank. When you say “even my expediter could not find solid grounds in the MDL” do you mean solid ground for a MDL/DOB violation or solid grounds for being able to install the tub legally? Thanks again.

briank | 11 years and 8 months ago

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extremely interesting question! I read the TPPN in its entirety, why do they limit this to 1 and 2 family? maybe to avoid reference to the MDL, which kicks in at 3 dwellings? This whole thing has always been fuzzy, even my expediter could not find solid grounds in the MDL I’m curious to hear what the colleagues have to say. Crowd-sourcing is the thing these days :)))

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