First off I must apologize for this epic saga. I think writing it was a sort of therapy…I needed to get it all out. I don’t expect everyone to read it…but thank you in advance to those who do and respond.

I moved to Park Slope this past May from a rent stabilized floor through in Manhattan with the hopes of living in a mellow, family friendly neighborhood for my wife, 6 month old daughter and myself. After a couple of months of looking at many 2 bedroom apartments, half of which were in need of a gut renovation, I thought we found the closest thing to perfection possible in a North Slope 2 bedroom garden apartment in a 200 year old brownstone…

…Of course we had to go through a broker (who by answering a craigslist ad and showing the apartment once gladly took my $3400). I met the landlord while viewing the apartment with the broker. At first he seemed ok enough, a little off but ok. His credentials were good…5th ave business owner, multiple higher education degrees, owned the building for about 25yrs. As we toured the apartment he assured me he would clear out the refuse (yes, as in garbage-rused bicycle, pieces of wood, etc.) from the storage space under the stoop so that we could use the space and from the back yard (construction waste left from the building of his deck years ago). He also mentioned that the basement (which must be accessed through our apartment) needed cleaning out, but that he might clear a space for use to use as storage. He half heartedly mentioned he would paint, which I may have dismissed as I thought at first glance that the walls/paint was in good shape. After viewing many apartments that were in much, much worse physical condition for the same price point ($2600/mth range) I jumped on the apartment and singed the lease that day. One thing that sort of stood out to me but I didn’t think much of was an “as is” clause in the lease…something I’ve never heard or seen in a rental agreement. After signing the lease the landlord told me he was going out of town on business immediately for a month and that I should contact his wife if we had questions, etc. while moving in. We agreed to pay a third months rent so we could get in a little early and prep the apartment before the actual moving day. One thing we decided was to have the floors refinished using a non-sanding, green method as our baby was crawling around and we knew she’s be spending quite a bit of time on the floor. We contacted the landlords wife and she informed me they had no interest in helping with the cost. We went ahead anyway and paid for it ourselves ($1200). Also, after closer inspection and with the previous tenants furniture gone, we noticed that the paint/walls weren’t in quite as good of shape as we had previously thought. I contacted the landlady again to see if she had anyone she used for painting, sort of feeling her out since I knew I had earlier declined the paint job and hoping she’d offer to take care of it. She didn’t really bite so we went ahead on our own and painted nearly the entire apartment, using water based, baby safe paint. During the process of cleaning (pretty filthy) and painting we it became quickly apparent that the apartment was the artifact of a shoddy, DIY, 20-year old renovation job. Also, there were a couple of holes in the walls, unfinished trim, light fixtures falling from the ceiling (exposed wires, not grounded), a broken screen door, missing door jams/thresholds, no fire detectors and many other small things wrong. Since the landlord was out of town for a month and we were moving in that week and because the landlady didn’t seem to want to deal with us, and because the issues showed evidence that they had been that way for many, many years we took it on ourselves to fix the place up (with the help of a contractor friend). It was a lot of time, elbow grease and another chunk of cash…but we thought maybe it was worth it as long as we stayed here a while. I think at this point we were beginning to have some feelings of disappointment and fear that the apartment wasn’t all we hoped it was, but we were already committed by the cost of moving in…so we wanted to make it as nice and livable as possible.

After the move-in we began focusing our attention on the yard. Now, I knew from the beginning that the yard would need some work and was willing to put some sweat equity and money in to it so we could really enjoy it all summer. The landlord had casually said it would be fine if we wanted to do some landscaping, etc. And, as I said, he said he would have the construction refuse removed. That being said, we ended up spending another $2500 on the yard, cleaning it of top soil refuse and doing some landscaping. Come time for our first rent to be due, with the landlord fresh back from his business trip, we promptly paid our first months rent. With the rent we sent a letter telling the landlord how happy we were with the neighborhood (which we still love-though it’s been hard being a renter here) and the apartment, though we did find it to be not quite in the condition we had initially thought. We described to him all of the work we did, listed out the cost, included receipts and gave him the OPTION to help pitch-in for the effort as we had undoubtedly improved his neglected property. Again I’ll say, we gave him the OPTION…did not demand anything. Also, we asked about the spaces he said he would clean out and requested he install a front door light. The entire tone of the letter was of happiness and excitement about our new home and looking forward to spending some years enjoying the investment. The letter we received in response a couple of days later was one of the most condescending, rude communications I have ever received in my life. I won’t go over it in detail, as I’ve already written an essay, but here are some choice quotes…

“honestly, it’s a rental”
“you say you hope to spend many years here. I remind you that you signed a one-year, as is lease”
“feel free to do what you like with the yard, I’m sure the next tenants will appreciate it”
“let me know if you are interested in purchasing the building” (


Comments

  1. Uh oh.

    One possibility:

    Send a letter requesting he do what he promised (the light, etc.) and requesting extermination of squirrels and mice. He is legally required to do so under the law. (He has to fix the holes to keep them out, but you as a renter should not specify how he is to carry out the extermination.)

    Re the smells — it could be any number of things, including the junk he has stored down there, a loose fitting releasing sewer gas smells, etc.

    The mold in the back room sounds like it could be cause for concern. Is there a source for water to be getting in through the bricks or roof, etc.?

  2. Am a previous LL. My rental apt was a great 2BR/1.5 bath with garden, all new kitchen duplex in park slope for $2800 am shocked that you spent $2600 for a place that needed a so much work and was so filthy, but I agree with others, don;t expect others to be as nice as you!
    sorry!

  3. A big part of the original post was cut off…either cuz it was too long or by mediator…here’s the rest of the story:

    My wife and I felt nauseous after reading the letter. It was the last thing we expected. He did say he was going to install the light and clean up the yard and under stoop space (which he never has), though added some verbiage to lay claim to both and tell us he’ll allow us to use them (though I was told the yard was private when we first looked at it). Though I was angry, I think I was more heartbroken. We overspent getting in to this apartment/neighborhood and we were/are stuck. What were were supposed to do? I called him the next day and basically kissed his ass just to avoid any further conflict. I know now this was a mistake and I should have confronted him more honestly and in person. I let him bully me…which sucks.

    Between then and now we’ve come to find there are many more problems with the apartment beyond the cosmetic issues we had dealt with before. Some of the issues we’ve been dealing with and that he hasn’t done anything about…

    + Constant flooding of back door
    + Mold stench in non-insulated, cinder block back bedroom extension (which is always 15deg colder than rest of apt.)
    + At least two squirrels dying in the walls of our back bedroom and stinking us out of our room for 2 months at a time
    + A half-dead squirrel crawling out of one of the many softball sized holes in the brick wall in our kitchen and spending the night (finally caught him in a box and released back in yard)
    + Killed nearly a dozen mice, still see at least 2 every night
    + Can hear something scratching around in the walls (same wall squirrel came out of, but further toward front)
    + Constant foul smells from dirt basement, some of which I believe are off fumes from the furnace as they have come and gone with cold weather.

    So…now we’re in a position where we feel like there are real health, safety and sanitation issues. They all stem from his negligence and complete disregard for his renters. The squirrel/rodent holes are not new, takes a long time to dig through brick. I informed him about the mice…I’ve seen no proof that he’s done anything about it…he recommended I use peanut butter on the traps…thanks. I would love to pickup my family and run out the door right now…but we just can’t afford it. We’re sending him a letter now to formally lay out our complaints and concerns and requesting a rent reduction so that we can save money to move. Also, we’re looking in to whether or not there’s any possibility of us purchasing. If not, we’ll be looking for another rental and likely breaking our lease. I was just wondering what the brownstoner.com community thinks about this. I know the answer to this question, but do you think were within our rights to request lowered rent and/or break our lease?

  4. I have a 2br/1bth in prime gowanus for rent. Very kid friendly
    1000sq ft floor thru, storage bin in basement if needed. exclusive use of yard.

    $2,650.00 a month 2 year lease(recession priced). (heat, hot water included)

    3rd Ave between 8th and 9th.

    POST YOUR EMAIL FOR MORE INFO.

  5. Did I miss something? I thought you were going to say you spent $10,000 fixing up the place, and now it is infested by a family of squirrels and your landlord won’t do anything to get rid of them.

    Sounds like all is well, just relax and enjoy your family and the new apartment. Hold the landlord to cleaning out the junk he promised.

  6. winelover – you are an idiot. jeez i wish i would have followed your sage advice and bought into an overpriced property any time over the last 3 years or so. yeah that would have been a great move! i wish i could be underwater on a giant mortgage!

  7. You should have read your lease before you signed it. “As is” means “As is”, no matter what the landlord “said” he was going to do, after you signed the lease.

  8. “Wow. Everyone was really, really nice. This must be some sort of fake brownstoner site.”

    I think we all like to take a good swing at a softball, but this would be like playing freaking tee ball.

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