Van Halen Tickets? No, Just an Open House
We’ve been hearing word that the open house at 11 Second Place in Carroll Gardens was a mob scene this weekend, with reports of a line stretching down the block. One neighbor speculates that the lack of decent 2 bedroom apartments in the nabe explains the frenzied interest in the 7-unit development. According to the…
We’ve been hearing word that the open house at 11 Second Place in Carroll Gardens was a mob scene this weekend, with reports of a line stretching down the block. One neighbor speculates that the lack of decent 2 bedroom apartments in the nabe explains the frenzied interest in the 7-unit development. According to the Corcoran website, 1,500-square-feet will run you over a million bucks. We haven’t seen the building in person (which is still under construction) but can’t understand what all the excitement is about. Did any readers get to see it this weekend?
11 2nd Place [Corcoran] GMAP
van halen?? come on, you’re showing your age (and hipness.)
I actually looked at this place when it was selling as a 3 story brownstone. It was listed at around $1.8 w/ and a few people had the listing (I saw it w/ Brooklyn Bridge). When they were showing it they mentioned that it was zoned for an extra floor so I was surprised to see they put 2 extra floors on three.
If memory serves the building was built in the late 1960s and was absolutely humungous. There was a lower duplex (connected by spiral stairs… yech!) and a seperate entrance to the top floor apartment which was absolutely huge. I seem to remember that the lot was 30 feet wide.
Great location… these will go quick, despite the ridiculous price.
Who says the 15th and 16th street buildings will get built?
I live on the block — saw a few people lining up a bit before noon on Saturday — I was gone the rest of the day, so don’t know if it became a “mob scene” later. Sunday had traffic, but didn’t seem like huge crowds. But the square footage is pretty accurate — it was a 33 foot lot — that’s why the builders could build so high, and building probably goes back 50 feet, or close to it. Because it’s so wide, the apartments have floor to ceiling windows 4 across — very unusual. The building wouldn’t be so bad if it wasn’t so high — a 4 story with that design would be ok — but it replaced a 3-story/2-family 60’s era modern house which also didn’t fit in (there are a smattering of those modern townhouses on various streets in the neighborhood). The “place” blocks between Court St. and Henry aren’t landmarked, by the way, despite being very desirable due to the large front and back gardens (lots on 2nd Place run 133′ feet deep). The folks on the block can’t believe condos are going for 1.2 million when you can still get entire brownstones for not much more.
If anyone decides to build next to the 15th St Condos, which I’m sure they will. Then all those glorious views you are overpaying for will be lost.
Has anyone been to the 20th Street place Corcoran is also selling? At least one of the same brokers as this one. That place seems to be going like hotcakes, even though it is on the otherside of the Prospect Expressway. What’s the scoop? The prices are definitely lower, but I am still suprised how fast the apartments seem to be disappearing. (The good news for buyers will be that if the new Greenwood Heights/South South Slope zoning goes through, the views should stay. Meanwhile developers on 15th and 16th are going nuts trying to get concrete poured before the zoning changes.)
Re 15th Street — I can only imagine how great the views are from the top couple of floors of that building! The lower floors, not so much, but the top floors — wow. (Not that it’s not a bit pricey, but I’d take there over the (formerly) $1000/Sq ft 7th Street places any day, even with 7th Street being closer to restaurant alley.)
The first open house was on Saturday starting at 1:00. Nobody slept on the sidewalk over night, but the line started forming at 10:00 am. They were showing for back up at the open house on Sunday, so it looks like all units sold out on Saturday. This is a great location and a nicely designed building. Unlike Fort Greene, Carroll Gardens never went through a renaissance; it hasn’t had the press it deserves. At these prices it looks like it’s finally coming into its own…
You can calculate the square footage any way you want as long as you disclose it in the offering book. I believe you were talking about the article by Sam Miller…The guy who does appraisals in Manhattan. He has an article about this on his website.