Marty DK's Fifth Avenue Housing Project
Since it was proposed earlier this year, the supported housing facility that the Fifth Avenue Committee wants to build on a municipal parking lot on 16th Street and 5th Avenue in Park Slope has been dividing the neighborhood. Of particular concern and debate among residents has been the composition of the potential residents. In an…
Since it was proposed earlier this year, the supported housing facility that the Fifth Avenue Committee wants to build on a municipal parking lot on 16th Street and 5th Avenue in Park Slope has been dividing the neighborhood. Of particular concern and debate among residents has been the composition of the potential residents. In an unexpected turn of events, Borough Prez Marty Markowitz has come out against the project in its current form. In order for the Beep to get on board with the project, the site’s zoning would have to be amended to accommodate families, including seniors, within the project; the role of the community advisory board would have to be restructured to his liking; the residential entrance to the building would have to be moved to Fifth Avenue; and parking garage would have to be incorporated into the building. We’re unclear on whether this is a death knell for the project or just a bump in the road. Can anyone comment on the ramifications?
FAC Development at 575 Fifth Avenue [Brownstoner] GMAP
Sorry to burst your bubble Kiebasa but I live on 16th Street and no one supports it who lives on 16th. Before you start frothing at the mouth again, spend some time around the FAC’s Warren Street project at night. You’ll be in good company and feel right at home.
And I Wonder how many of the A-holes opposed to it actually live any where near it or for that matter may actually be child molesters and Sociopaths
Bunch of hypocritical F…cks
I wonder how many of the clowns in support of this misguided project actually live on 16th Street?
This is all about Marty F-ing with Fac for there commitment to derail Atlantic Yards.
By doing this he makes believe that he is backing both the project and for the opponents. He wants to throw as many roadblocks in there way so that he and his boy Ratface can proceed untouched.
Wanting something and getting it are very different issues. The ones who are Complaining about the proposed project have offered no legitimate alternatives Marty has made his recommendations based on the wants of a few without considering the realities involved. Nothing more than walking the Political tight wire. Pandering to everyone while committing to no one. If Marty, or anyone else, truly believes all that he said then maybe he should get Regas (who has sights set on this site), Boymelgreen, Katan and the rest of the vultures who continue to destroy our borough to do exactly what he has recommended that FAC do with this little piece of property – put parking and get community input into their projects. The Community fought a hard fight to down zone this area. To protect the Community, to save some of the Sunlight and trees and everything that brings people to Brooklyn. Now Marty wants to abandon all of that in the name of protecting a few parking spaces? The reality is that in order to achieve Mr. Markowitz’ stated goals for this small piece of property, FAC (or whoever) would have to {at great expense (More tax dollars)} dig 30 feet deep and add an additional 4 or more floors (which would require a variance and more wasted tax dollars) to this project. More construction, more noise, more property damage, more pollution, more tax dollars, less peace, less Sunlight, less open space and less of the Brooklyn that we all know and love.
So who will really win. Oh there will definitely be some winners, but it won’t be the Community at large or even the Borough. The winners will be a select few with there own agendas – Be they Political, Financial, or other. The one thing that is certain is that the Community will not benefit.
In my opinion – Be careful what you ask for.
This project should stay as it is. It is the best we can get without doing more harm.
Until proven Otherwise- Me thinks that those who are apposed have been swindled or have ulterior motives
One of the major problems in brownstone Brooklyn is car storage. Unlike other cities where service alleys or garages are available to folks who pay millions of dollars for houses,in Brooklyn there is no space for cars. You’re on your own, tough, get lost.
It would be great to live without cars, but they are a necessity for many of us and the subways do not go everywhere. Actually on many a weekend lately they do not run at all. I think that parking is becoming the issue that dares not speak its name. To be for parking is to be for global warming or genocide.
We have to face this issue and provide a minimum of parking for people. I don’t know, NY is so weird about anything practical. I’m California dreamin, let me tell you.
“suite sixteen” down the street sounds like it’s being marketed to sex offenders.
…I live in the neighborhood, and agree with (and was happy to hear about) SOME of Mr. Markowitz’s recommendations, if in fact this is a good faith effort on his part to make the assisted living space work. And that’s a big IF…
I always thought that the 49 exclusive SROs were a bad idea; having seniors and families in the building bring extra stability and security to all the activity in and around the building, probably lowers the odds or numbers of potential misadventures, not to mention that it brings fairness to those on a path of recovery who happen not to be single. (think about it – 49 single adults with serious life problems all living in 49 separate units under one roof. just seems like a bad idea from a common sense point of view.) also like the recommendation to put the entrance on 5th avenue.
Also love the idea of FAC forging a real community partnership and learning a hardass lesson from the shifty and unbecoming behavior they exhibited when trying to get this deal done without the participation of property owners/residents.
HOWEVER, I agree with a few posters above that the zoning change is ridiculous; there is absolutely no real sensible reason to make the structure 7 stories tall, and this, unfortunately, does smell of an impending backdoor deal with a developer.
The community should absolutely take issue with this outrageous idea – and do what needs to be done with the housing inhabitant makeup so the building doesn’t need to be out of context…
I dunno – maybe these demands are a semi-veiled attempt to make the FAC facility become a dead issue so more money can be made elsewhere…
I also question the notion of putting underground parking in this area, and “leasing” it to nearby wealthy people. The parking is needed for EVERYONE, despite what others say, and this just privatizes a long-standing area that up til now has been public. Not fair, to say the least.
What does this mean for the UNTREATED, UNSUPERVISED, secret majority of home owning, difunctional, South Slopers who suffer from mental illness and routinely sexual molest their own children? MORE PARKING!!!!!! while shoping for cell phones and duct tape at one of the many 99 cent stores along 5th Avenue.
FACT: I saw the plans for 575 and there really was a secrete underground cinderblock bunker/ daycare center planned for the cellar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!