Rezoning for Brighton Beach?
Kensington’s doing it. So is Flatbush (and Gowanus and Greenpoint/Williamsburg, too). And now Brighton Beach is slated for the rezoning bandwagon, too. City Limits reports that that proposal is “an attempt to limit destructive overdevelopment by setting clear limits on construction and creating height restrictions for buildings in the area. Most of the neighborhood is…
Kensington‘s doing it. So is Flatbush (and Gowanus and Greenpoint/Williamsburg, too). And now Brighton Beach is slated for the rezoning bandwagon, too. City Limits reports that that proposal is “an attempt to limit destructive overdevelopment by setting clear limits on construction and creating height restrictions for buildings in the area. Most of the neighborhood is now zoned without any height limits.” The limits were removed in the 1970s to stimulate development. Guess it worked, with an influx of young money and immigrants tilting the nabe away from the low-rise housing that once dominated and toward projects like the Oceana, in the photo above. Thus it’s been the victim of the speculation that’s harmed other Brooklyn neighborhoods, with half-finished or vacant projects looming over the area. If the rezoning goes through, most of the neighborhood would have to respect a 40-foot height limit, with 80 feet on commercial streets and 100 feet over on Brighton Beach Avenue, the throbbing hub of the ‘hood. But some folks think it’s too little, too late. “Asked whether the proposal will solve the development situation in Brighton, [CB13’s district manager, Chuck Reichenthal] said: ‘No, it won’t.’
Rezoning Too Late for Brighton Beach? [City Limits]
Local Broker,
What are your thoughts about Trump Village coops? In your opinion, would the prices there do better or worse than the overall Brooklyn prices in the southern half of the borough?
Thank you.
“the guy who wrote that article doesnt know about real estate or whats going on the nabe “.
Local Broker: thank you for confirming my suspicions about the author. BTW: I lived in neighboring Gravesend for over 40 years, which is why I know the area. Gravesend is seeing alot of development with mid-rise condos too. Many 2nd-generation Russians from Brighton Beach are moving to these condos.
Good luck with your ventures!
oh and warbass is mostly russians just like trump you can call it brighton but its not it coney island even though its closer to brighton than what most think of when you say coney island either way those buildings are from the 60s and have nothing to do with over development the guy who wrote that article doesnt know about real estate or whats going on the nabe
i do not know the boundaries. im a commercial broker and have been involved in alot of development sales over the past few years and with knowledge of this neighborhood this is what the zoning should look like. fisrt off lets set the lines of brighton beach boardwalk to the south beltparkway to the north ocean parkway to the west and corbin place to the east. everything south of brighton beach ave stays the same no need for change its all buildings except for brighton 1st which has houses on it not many maybe 10 which are nice and a couple at brightwater court on the same block. brighton beach avenue from coney isl ave to ocean pkwy should be a retail zoning with a small residential overlay like R4. BBA from CIA to corbin should be up zoned for higher residential and keep the retail the same little grocery or bakery no big retail which wouldnt come to this side of brighton anyway. now everything north of BBA east of CIA should stay as well i believe its and R6 with no commercial zoning except for brighton 11th street which has some stores and M zoning should be taken away from brighton 11th street at cass place and make it a mixed use zone for just the beginning of the block where there is a small warehouse tile store and medical office. and this part of brighton doesnt end at the belt its at cass place where neptune meets emmons ave. now the hard part north of BBA west of CIA should be R6-R8 up to neptune ave. but if someone wants to build a brand new 1-3 fam house that should be allowed even though i dont see that happening. neptune ave from OP to CIA should be R6-R8 with commercial overlays there are parts now that are stores but can only be built to residential it should be mixed use. neptune from east of CIA should be R4 no retail. and everything north of neptune should be R3-R4 no retail thats where the houses should go. simple and i think that would make most happy. as far as community meetings go i think its a joke at least here it is the people in this community have no pull with politicians theres no old money here old ties thats why a lot are saying its to late if they cared and had pull this would have happened in 2004 when most of the new stuff started going up now at the end of the market they want change please. i just saved the city from spending a lot of time and money on their research on what to do in brighton just send me the check and change the zoning.
local broker, those are interesting thoughts–although i think the low-rise side streets should be maintained, personally. sounds like you should share your thoughts with the local community board. also, not sure, but seems like the rezoning would be larger than just brighton beach, which is perhaps why buildings not officially in the nabe (as benson asserts) are used as examples of “over development.” if you know the boundaries of the rezoning proposal, please share. thanks.
Local Broker;
Please have your article reviewed by Longtimelistener. Even though you live there, it is not appropriate and “civil” to state the facts about the neighborhood. Moreover, you must be missing those wonderful structures that are “big deco-y buildings, spacious, nice floors, curved walls, subtle moldings…good stuff”. Why would the children want to flee these wonderful buildings for NJ and Long Island?
Tsk-tsk. Longtimelistener will not approve of such negativity.
i have been in brighton beach for over 20 years and the only thing bad about all the new development is the traffic. these side streets west of coney isl ave were horrible drug infested prostitution bums this neighborhood is filled with pre and post war apartment buildings that make up most of the population. the bungalows that are being sold and developed were worth something when this was a vacation spot 100 years ago they are worthless now. if you want to talk about over development in this part of the world talk about sheepshead bay where you have a couple hundred vacant apartments right now. its also a joke that some people are afraid of over developing coney island its prime water/beach front land just like brighton. the way they are talking about changing the zoning is a joke who would want to live in a 10 story building on top of the train nice view of the B line. i live 5 blocks away from the train and with windows open i can hear it. anyway the zoning should be made higher on the side streets where the little houses are and down zoned on the avenue and keep it retail west of coney isl ave. one thing that most dont realize about brighton is this place is going to change alot in the next 10-15 years most of the people that live here are immigrants that are getting old and are not going to be around much longer alot of their kids are not staying here most move to jersy and long island and florida this is not going to be the same brighton in 15 years they should take this into account if they want to change the zoning because most of the people who want changes are not going to be around to see them.
also, haven’t worked there since ’94, but i believe we were in the brighton 3rd area–big deco-y buildings, spacious, nice floors, curved walls, subtle moldings…good stuff.
not to belabor the point, but I don’t think asking you to be civil, or telling you that i wish i COULD learn from you is a personal attack, and I find that you attack the folks who post (or write) articles. I guess I was hoping I could affect change in YOU. Ah, well, no go. I don’t say this as an attack: I don’t think you add to the discussion. I say it in the hope that you’ll consider changing your tack and tone.