Ratner: 'Fort Greene, I've Got You Surrounded'
Man, it’s getting hard to keep up with all the towers that are sprouting up in Downtown Brooklyn. Yesterday, Curbed ran some renderings of Bruce Ratner’s latest project at 80 Dekalb Avenue aka 625 Fulton Street. The 36-story, Costas Kondylis-designed silver scraper will have 369 apartments spread out over 335,187 square feet. As we saw…

Man, it’s getting hard to keep up with all the towers that are sprouting up in Downtown Brooklyn. Yesterday, Curbed ran some renderings of Bruce Ratner’s latest project at 80 Dekalb Avenue aka 625 Fulton Street. The 36-story, Costas Kondylis-designed silver scraper will have 369 apartments spread out over 335,187 square feet. As we saw when we swung by at the end of the day, demolition of the existing three- and four-story building that runs most of the way towards Fulton from Dekalb is in full swing. Curbed reported that the property is listed as a rental on the Kondylis site, but we bet nothing’s set in stone just yet. Anyone know if this has an affordable housing component? For political reasons alone we suspect it will.
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anon, you don’t have a view of the statue of liberty from this side of downtown brooklyn. which building are you in? Those views are more likely seen in Park Slope, Red Hook, Sunset Park, etc.
I’m against this as one of these buildings is going to block my view of the Statue of Liberty. We all have out selfish reasons
g-man, when is the Department of Buildings review. Is it open to the public.
wow g-man. Do you have any pics too?
thanks g-man, that was almost comprehensive. Maybe you can also comment on anon 9:51 AM’s question.
How will this affect view from the Forte? Seems like one whole side of ‘triangle’ will have great views of this building.
g-man, i guess that should shut everybody up!
Whew! Where to start? I guess by saying that 10:55 got it right in just a few words: “The project is most likely as-of-right. Get over it – this is NYC. Paying for a project to get around the rules is in your heads.” My longer take follows.
10:21, if you had checked the zoning, you would have confirmed your suspicion that “it is entirely possible that this is being constructed ‘as of right.'” The site is zoned C6-4 and has been for some time. It was not rezoned as part of the Downtown Brooklyn Development Plan. It is also located in the Brooklyn Center Urban Renewal Area.
I do not know when the zoning and urban renewal plan were changed, but that is when the public process took place (9:56, 12:41, 1:05). Other than Department of Buildings review (let’s save that discussion for another time, folks), there is no building-by-building approval process. I also believe that a Ratner entity has controlled this site for some time; probably back to the Metrotech days is my guess.
There are no height limits in C6-4 districts, although there are setback and other design requirements since the building is also subject to the Special Downtown Brooklyn District regulations. The equivalent residential district is R10.
R10 districts have an floor area ratio of 10.0, which can increase 12.0 if affordable housing is constructed. The affordable housing must be built in the same community board or within a half-mile of the site, so the East New York cracks (doubter at 10:10 and anon at 1:01) are at least ill-informed and at most intentional efforts to misinform.
The above should answer, in basic terms, jdhs 91’s questions about guidelines. Sterling Silver, the Department of Housing Preservation and Development is charged with making sure that affordable housing projects are compliant. HPD also oversees the lotteries for apartments, 9:57. Check out the link that kuroko posted at 11:03.
Oh, and 10:54, the building is across the street from Long Island University, not a NYCHA development. Buy a map.
You all may now continue your fact-optional expressions of personal opinion.
anyone have pics of what is there right now? I saw one on the orig post, but I can’t seem to remember what is there (or was there) now. Thanks.