"Raging" Fire at 110 Livingston?
We just got a tip that a large fire has broken out at 110 Livingston. Anyone nearby? Any photos? Please send them to us at brownstoner@brownstoner.com. Update: 11:48 a.m. 53 Boerum has a perfect view and has some pics up already.
We just got a tip that a large fire has broken out at 110 Livingston. Anyone nearby? Any photos? Please send them to us at brownstoner@brownstoner.com.
Update: 11:48 a.m. 53 Boerum has a perfect view and has some pics up already.
I guess construction was getting close to finishing. Union rules must not finish. Welcome yo new york
It’s hilarious because this was about a fire in 110 Livingston Street and it turned into a “self-gratification fest” at the hands of people who probably have no interest or idea in good architecture and design, let alone Historic Preservation in the first place.
Naturally, if any firefighters or people were injured or died, we would have heard about it almost immediately. Considering that we didn’t, let’s assume everyone came out safely and that those hotheads who jumped down the throats of others can rest securely in the comfort of their own bizarre and gratuitous behaviour.
This is a great blog, but people are ridiculously sensitive and tempermental. I second 12:24PM by saying that I hope all architectural details and progress are preserved and since it seems like it was a small and rather uneventful fire, hopefully construction will be back on track soon.
That’s funny I always thought that PLG has an organized get out the pro-Lefferts message that comes up a lot on this board even when nobody even brings up that neighborhood. I am absolutely sick of hearing about PLG and wish they would start their own pro-board or negative board or whatever. In fact my guess is that it’s a real estate agent who lives in the area that is just hyping the neighborhood by pretending anyone else cares.
I love the house party analogy. It’s the best way to approach free speech in this medium. Stay the course Mr. B.
Marisol, you are absolutely correct. But for a long time now there’s been someone with a definite agenda against certain areas. There have been plenty of discussions about crime and safety in most neighborhoods that go really well (i.e. intelligent discussions about statistics, comments from people who live in the given area being discussed, first- or second-hand anecdotes about muggings, etc.). But whenever Prospect Lefferts Gardens is discussed, an anonymous poster (often trying to pretend that s/he is several different people talking to each other) hijacks the conversation in a very determined, relentless manner. This is not simply someone who doesn’t like the neighborhood and has a strong opinion (and a lot of free time); this is someone who has made it her/his mission to misrepresent a neighborhood by posting multiple times as different people.
Once the discussions degenerate to that extent I usually stop reading, so other people surely have better insight on this subject than I do. But I just didn’t want you to get the wrong impression about this site. And I’ve found that the most reasonable discussions about crime and safety usually happen in the forum section, when someone posts asking about a particular neighborhood (I’m a single woman, will I be able to walk home from the subway at night…). I don’t think the troll bothers to read the forum section.
How can we possibly discuss real estate and property values without taking into account the more general features of neighborhoods, including crime and especially violent crime? That’s not realistic, and I for one want to know when a neighborhood is dangerous. I certainly don’t think the people who voice concerns about safety should be brow beaten, whether or not you agree with them.
Brownstoners, go to yesterday’s Lefferts Hotel thread and scroll down to the very end (2/8 comment at 4:55pm). The brownstoner troll has been identified! Finally!!!
Sorry, without the other side of the conversation it looks like I wasn’t taking my meds.
For the newcomers, this is not a first amendment issue. The analogy we’ve made before is that this is more like being at a party at our house. You’re welcome to express any opinion you like as long as you do so respectfully but if we think you’re purposefully trying to ruin the party, you’re no longer going to be welcome.
Unfortunately our judgment will never be perfect, but it’s better than letting a few jerks piss in the water. Those of you who want to help the situation should sign up for and use TypeKey, as it makes it much easier to determine who’s a real commenter. It also has the added benefit of making it easier for everyone to follow a comment thread.