Prospect Lefferts Gardens: Next Condo Frontier
February 5, 2006–How hot is Brooklyn these days? So hot that condo developers are seeking building sites even in Prospect Lefferts Gardens — where single-family homes are the only thing that’s allowed in a big section of the neighborhood, because of deed covenants that date back to the 1890s. And other parts of the nabe…
February 5, 2006–How hot is Brooklyn these days? So hot that condo developers are seeking building sites even in Prospect Lefferts Gardens — where single-family homes are the only thing that’s allowed in a big section of the neighborhood, because of deed covenants that date back to the 1890s. And other parts of the nabe are included in a city landmark district, which also limits new construction. Builders are heading to this area despite the relatively low supply of available sites because of the continued strong demand for housing in one of the hottest boroughs. “The pattern in Brooklyn is a repeat of a century ago. First people settled in Brooklyn Heights, then the brownstone belt was created, then radiating bands were created outside the brownstone belt,” said Kevin Holmes of Massey Knakal Realty Services. “It’s a reclaiming of the brownstone belt.” (More…)
Building on Condo Boom [NY Daily News]
Why exactly are you PLG people so psycho? Is it just that you are upset that prices haven’t increased nearly as much as everywhere else? No other area residents get so crazed when a negative word is said about their beloved home.
Please read 12:11 post to get the Ditmas person I was responding to..For all you potential buyers who read this stuff to make an informed choice about where to live BY ALL MEANS do not move to Prospect Lefferts Garden…it is an unsafe, unfriendly place to live just as all the educated folks have posted before me..trust me, they know what their talking about…the houses suck!!!! Stay in your apartment,condo or co-op because you will be taking your life into your own hands once you leave Grand Army Plaza and continue down Flatbush….I really hope you can afford the Park Slope/BH/Ditmas and other fab areas please look there first if you can’t find anything there well I guess leave New York but please don’t educate yourself about PLG..we SUCK…Everyone happy!!!!
There’s a big difference between thoughtful comments about a neighborhood, positive or negative, and patently obvious trolls. For example, when someone responds to “Lefferts bashing” by writing that there’s crime in every brownstoned neighborhood (an obvious truth to anyone without blinders on) there’a an anonymous joker who trys to twist that statement into an absurd claim that “NO BROOKLYN NABE IS SAFER THAN ANY OTHER. THEY ALL PRESENT THE SAME RISKS” a claim I haven’t seen anyone actually make on this list.
As I’ve said previously, I’ve lived in PLG for 31 years and my experience is that it’s NOT an especially dangerous neighborhood (but neither is it Disneyland, Shangra-La, or Never Never Land–something that applies to Ft. Greene, Clinton Hill, Boerum Hill, Park Slope, or even–dare I say it–Brooklyn Heights).
Nevertheless I plan to limit my future objections to PLG Bashing to pointing out the obvious trolls. I’ll make one exception though. I’d like to invite “Jamey” to our next PLG House Tour on the first Sunday in June–I’ll be glad to pay for your ticket. Far from ” refusing to let anyone get a real look at[PLG]” I and many other people have been working hard for many years to make our neighborhood better known(and no, I’m not involved in RE sales and have no compelling reason to want to increase the price of my home, because I have no plans to move). FWIW I do plead guilty to writing lots of “pro-Lefferts propaganda” over the years (if you want to characterise anything positive about my neighborhood as such) and I make no apology for doing so.
The last time there was one of these PLG debates, three people wrote about violent crime they (or their spouse) had experienced int he area. Yet the PLG-philes keep saying that no one ever gives any evidence. Huh? That seemed like at least anecdotal evidence.
I have only added one post to this rant–that laughing at the realtor’s absurd over-estimation of current prices in LM–but I do have to wonder at the selective memory of the PLG clique.
Actually, plenty of evidence has been marshalled in other threads. It’s just that, as soon as someone relates an incident that reflects poorly on PLG, they get the old “That happens in every neighborhood” argument in return, which is of course a thoroughly hollow reply.
Anon 1:44, There is absolutely nothing wrong with an honest discussion of the pros and cons of any nabe, including mine, which is not PLG, by the way, it’s one of those other “dangerous” hoods. But if you look back, there was no meaningful discussion on the part of the LPG is dangerous gang: “Lefferts is not safe”, “Lefferts is dangerous”, to just quote 2 on this thread. That’s it. How? Why? For whom? (the real question here.) Obviously not dangerous for everyone, or no one would be living there, at least none of us at least middle class or above, educated folk of every persuasion, with our computers on all day. Do we have imperical evidence? We don’t even get anecdotal evidence, just vitriol, and asinine comments by people like Jamey, who probably doesn’t even know where PLG is. Yeah, Jamey, let’s get a look at PLG, let’s look at where you live, where I live, where everyone lives. That’s fair. Being a jerk is just being a jerk.
This is undoubtedly the most retarded thread I’ve ever encountered. Little Lefferts crybabies who feel bad about their hood, refusing to let anyone get a real look at it. WAH WAH WAH!!! Go ahead and cry, Lefferts crybabies. Pathetic.
Bunky, the problem I have with pro-Lefferts propaganda is the same problem I’d have with pro-PS or pro-Ft Greene or pro-anything propaganda. It’s propaganda! A lot of people come to this board looking for information, both good and bad. I have no trouble believing that PLG has its strong points, but I also have no trouble believing that it has its weak points. Every place has its shortcomings. What’s the harm in discussing them frankly and openly?
Jill, a lot of people post as “anonymous” here–not just me. I said that people get irritated when Lefferts boosters refuse to acknowledge any kind of negatives at all about Lefferts. That’s all I said. There are others who posted as “anonymous” who voice negative opinions about Lefferts. I did not voice a negative opinion about Lefferts, but I don’t see why anyone should be denied to voice such an opinion if they hold it. Please try to be a little more responsible from now on when replying to “anonymous”.