Nets Arena By 2010? Not Bloody Likely
Over at Atlantic Yards Report, Norman Oder maintains that we should take the Nets’ pledge to move to Brooklyn in 2010 with a grain of salt: Arena construction takes 24 months and can’t begin until the pending lawsuits are cleared…Even if the legal challenges end soon, it still would take a scheduled three years to…
Over at Atlantic Yards Report, Norman Oder maintains that we should take the Nets’ pledge to move to Brooklyn in 2010 with a grain of salt:
Arena construction takes 24 months and can’t begin until the pending lawsuits are cleared…Even if the legal challenges end soon, it still would take a scheduled three years to reconstruct bridges on Carlton Avenue and Sixth Avenue, and it would be a very unwise move to open the arena with a major traffic bottleneck next to it. The Carlton Avenue bridge won’t close until January 16. Three years from then would be mid-January, 2011.
Given that the Nets originally intended to be playing in Brooklyn by 2006, Oder’s skepticism about the current target date doesn’t seem far-fetched.
On the Nets Arena, the Real Story is 2011, Not 2010 [AY Report]
Nets Say Brooklyn Move May Be Delayed Further [NY Times]
Rendering from barclayscenter.com.
Re Jan 4 12:22 :
(Not in my back yard. As in there should be a place for 20,000 people to gather for sports and other things in a city, but not at the junction of almost every major subway line in Brooklyn plus the LIRR if I live near there and need a place to park my SUV.)
No. As in if 20,000 people want a place to gather for sports and other things in a city, why should it be subsidized by the small to medium scale residential community around it? Why provide parking for 4,000 cars at the most congested intersection in Brooklyn, if the public trasnportation here is so good? Why close streets to give the land away to a single developer, instead of providing infrastructure for multiple developers over time as the market develops? As in haven’t we learned anything from the failed “urban planning” fiascos of previous generations?
NIMBY = Not In My Butt YET
20000 seats…round’em up…
nuf said…
Guys…40% of the land is the yards…the other 60% is private or city streets and sidewalks which are being handed over to FSCR.
Yes, the Carlton Avenue bridge is slated to be closed, supposedly, finally, 1/16/08. See Brownstoner’s Thursday AM news yesterday. There are the comments referring to the bridge closing:
http://bstoner.wpengine.com/brownstoner/archives/2008/01/thursday_links_76.php#comments
the team name should be brooklyn. that’s it.
agreed. i’m really looking forward to going to the games. Also, theres a viable scenario where they get Lebron in 2009 or so.
I can’t wait to go to a basketball game.
Very few homes are being condemned for the AY. The vast majority of property being condemned is industrial space. Most of the loud voices protesting the condemnation for AY are other developers, like Weinstein and Boymlergreen who own property there and have lost out to ratner.
The condemnation compensation will be based on the current zoning regulations, not the prospective rezoning (ie R10 in this case)
nolandgrab is a front for these developers, not the dozen or so residential owners who are being displaced.
That was my point about the lawsuits. They are in the final stretch and will probably be decided soon. To me, demolition and the announcement of the Carlton St. bridge closure are signs of activity (i.e. the construction of the platform). Time will tell, but I just can’t see Ratner abandoning this project after all of the time and money he’s invested in it.