Gehry Officially Off Yards Project
The writing’s been on the wall for some time, but The Times delivered the official death blow in an online article yesterday afternoon: “Frank Gehry is out as the architect for the Barclays Center arena, the centerpiece of the long-delayed and financially challenged Atlantic Yards development in Brooklyn, according to government officials and real estate…
The writing’s been on the wall for some time, but The Times delivered the official death blow in an online article yesterday afternoon: “Frank Gehry is out as the architect for the Barclays Center arena, the centerpiece of the long-delayed and financially challenged Atlantic Yards development in Brooklyn, according to government officials and real estate executives who have been briefed on the plans.” Taking the reins post-bait-and-switch will be a Kansas City-based architecture firm called Ellerbe Becket. Unfortunately for all of us, The Times describes the new design as bearing a resemblance to Conseco Field as well as an “airplane hangar.” Meanwhile, Atlantic Yards Report notes that Forbes is putting the odds of the Nets making it to Brooklyn at 50-50.
Developer Drops Gehry’s Design for Brooklyn Arena [NY Times]
FCR Names New Architect for Brooklyn Arena [Reuters]
Starchitect Dumped from Atlantic Yards for Cheaper Option [NY Daily News]
Star Architect Out of Arena Project [NY Post]
“How do you think the entire upper west/east side, west/east village, Brooklyn Heights/Dumbo, Park Slope et al became some of the richest zipcodes in the city? Folks with money want to be around other folks with money.”
Isn’t the converse of this people going into places like Bed Stuy (where the average income is in the 20’s) buying homes which are nearly or over a million dollars…?
That doesn’t really go along with the theory that rich people don’t want to live side by side with poorer ones to me.
11217
I think that the MSG area as separate from midtown. Midtown (around Grand Central) is strictly business, kinda boring, not residential but not unpleasant.
MSG is the Penn Station/MSG and is low rent and edgy but not in a cool hipster way. More like steppin’ over chicken bones and avoided eye contact with hookers and hustlers.
“i really don’t get your insistence on ridiculous caricatures of people who you don’t know and obviously don’t understand. it doesn’t help your argument at all – just makes you look bitter.”
iz- people can disagree with me without calling me bitter or bitch. FSRG manages and we’ll manage to agree to disagree on points. idisagree- whose user name says it all- made the above comment. It was uncalled for. My response was to her. then 11217- long a legend for his temperment and nastiness- calls me a bitch. How about their snippy agression?
FSRG- I grew up in NYC. Yes we do manage to live cheek by jowl as it were and usually its a matter of normal times and change, not planned. I’ve spoken to a lot of people about AY- that’s the impression I’ve gotten in general and if AY goes up, we’ll just see what actually happens. If you’re right, I’ll be the first to give you props.
fsrg—what?! there is ZERO evidence in this city that buyers of expensive apartments (as opposed to the mega rich) wont (or even do not want) to live and be involved in communities that have significant portions of working but relatively poor people
How do you think the entire upper west/east side, west/east village, Brooklyn Heights/Dumbo, Park Slope et al became some of the richest zipcodes in the city? Folks with money want to be around other folks with money. Lets not forget the key ingredient to gentrification—-folks got priced out of their natural environment. Dont’ make it seemt that rich people want to live amongst the poor. If i were rich, the last place i would want to live is in the hood.
MM – bxgrl was the one naming the rich. my point was that her viewpoint on what “the rich” do is irrelevant to this discussion. so thanks for agreeing with me! xoxo!!
Bxgrl:
Once again taking the conversation to a personal level having nothing to do with this conversation. I don’t care what Rob says about me. The fact that you are using him as the comment moderator on this board is a total joke.
You often have great points, but you inject so much personal into it, it makes it very difficult to digest sometimes. I’m clearly not the only one who feels that way as I witness quite a few people who seem to take issue with it.
But keep talking about Rob and the Open Thread…that IS where the real meat and potatoes of this website is afterall.
frsg
Thanks for responding.
I have worked on large projects and know how long they take. They can go faster for a price.
Many of those jobs go to contractors and consultants that work on a project and do not need to be locally engaged.
As for Bloomberg not needing money. He didn’t get were he is today not needing money. How does The Bloomberg Center sound?
Maybe that was a stupid comment though. I am a cynic that does not trust politicians particularly New Yorkers.
URGGGG I hate when I become a sanctimonious lecturer. I apologize. It’s kinda more annoying even than rudeness and aggression. Anyway, bxgrl I just meant you’re often right, you don’t have to fight so hard to defend yourself, your thoughts speak for themselves.
It’s tough being on the non-end of the stick. None of us really feel we have any influence over this; even the DDD people don’t have much power, despite all the legal action. It’s like we’re at the whim of the government. It would take a lot of unity that brooklyn folk just don’t have right now to make this thing work. Too much change happening as we speak for people to simultaneously unifty and demand a singular concept/vision. So instead, the government/developper consortium can get in there and exploit while we’re all busy going at each other on web forums.
wow. i thought i might defend myself and my post, but on second thought, there’s really no need.